diawa saltist 30's! i used to use reels with 24" retrieve and hated to bring them in while pulling gear let alone with a fish. Stepped on a boat that had saltists on the dipseys and I fell in love. high speed retrieve is great for keeping tension and reeling down while working a fish. Torque is a non issue to me..., plenty of it. Drags our awesome! Granted the line counter is somewhat ill placed but as others have said you get used to it &/or just shift grip a couple inches higher. i use clarions on coppers and long cores. love them too. Good luck!