sherman brown

if you don't find any here ( and you probably won't. ) do a search for Cisco tracks. they are a lot less money than cannon and work great and I think they look better. the tracks are all the same size as the major brands, cannon, traxstech, Berts, and maybe more of the other brands. I recommend getting the longest tracks that will fit on your boat. that leaves room for net holders and moving your holders from place to place. I have 72" on each side of my boat and wouldn't settle for anything less.

I have the Big Jon pro tournament riggers with 12" pedestals then my swivel bases with the slide mounts so I can remove them in an instant. if I was going to mount to a track system then I would use the traxstech 4" risers with the swivel on them.

i bought a new set of Big Jon pro tournament rigger with auto stop. after less that a couple of weekends of use the auto stops stopped working. the switches aren't covered under the warranty. i never did really check to see if the switches were bad or if the 13# weights had caused the cab,le to cut the hole in the bead stop to get so large for the bead to make contact with the switch. now i just use them without auto stop. you lose very little time without auto stop. they do work great and if anything does go wrong they have great customer service. one with the short piece booms can be used at 1' 2' 3' or 4'. but the shorter booms do make it much easier to hook the line up to the cable. if you get a ball retriever the Traxsteck pully retriever kit is the best one in my opinion. they use to sell them for 2 riggers for about what 1 kit cost now. you can go to Traxstech.com to check them out. another good thing about them is you can get a set of slide mounts that lets you just slide them out to remove them from the boat. cannon will work with the extendable booms.

I don't need any more now but I used the same weights and they have much less blowback than round type weights. I only run 2 riggers and what I like most is that I can bend the fins and get them to run farther out to the side giving me a lot more space between the 2 weights. oh yeah, I forgot to mention 70.00 for a pair is like getting one free and more. these can be shipped in a flat priority box for under 20.00.

that's what I have on my Big Jon riggers and with 13# weights they only worked a short when 1 stopped kicking off then a short time later the other one stopped shutting off and that type of autostop is what i was looking to get away from.

I still think a good trolling motor would do a better job pulling the bow back on course than trying to push the boat from the back. but then I never troll into the waves in rough water, I troll with the waves so you have more control over the waves. once a few years back while fishing alone and using my Mercruiser motor and outdrive in some good waves trolling with the waves without any kind of autopilot I tied a 6v flashlight to the bottom of the steering wheel to keep it from turning free and it worked 98% of the time I was fishing. the flashlight would go up when the boat tried turning then it would come back down keeping the boat straight. but it did go over the top a few times then I had to turn the wheel back to straighten the boat manually.

the cannon ratcheting rod holders are my choice for running lite bite slide divers for walleye on Erie's central basin. I switched to traxstech holders because they have 17 adjustments up and down but I went back to cannon because they set with one hand. the others it takes both hands to set them down. hodgesmarine.com has cannon rod holders at a fair price but you may find them cheaper by doing a web search for them. cisco tracks with canon ratcheting holders are the ones I use. and for me, they are the most fisherman-friendly holders on the market at this time. but I did like everything about the Traxsteck except having to use both hands to set it down.

if you have a trolling motor on the bow that has autopilot built in it will do a much better job of boat control pulling the boat rather than pushing it. plus all the kicker does is power the boat forward and the trolling motor steers it. the t/m will give a much better response steering than a kicker.

beside the main motor would be the way to go if it fits and turns as it should. if it doesn't fit the next best option is to get a mount that lifts by hand so it's out of the water for running. there are tons of them out there but all are not great mounts. go to amazon and search for kicker outboard mounts and on eBay. you will find one that will work for you. panther makes a good one but they are pricy., there are way better steering connectors than the panther but if you want a panther steering kit I have one brand net that I bought off here when he had it listed as an EZ steer, but I will take 25.00 for the panther steering kit shipped to your door.

do these have some type of auto stops on them? how does the auto stop work on these? would you be willing to ship at my cost?

pm sent on lot 1 that I want them. as soon as I get the total with shipping and how he wants paid I will pay him.

you might also want to check out the traxstech swivel track mounts. I'm not just sure what lengths they have but I used a set of the 4" rise with a set of Big Jon electric riggers mounted on my tracks and they worked beautifully.

if outwest has one I'm sure he will give you a fair deal. he is one of the most giving people I know or has known in my 71 yrs. I was on OGF with him and I made a trip to Erie and forgot my downriggers at home. he contacted me by pm and he lived in the area I fish and offered to loan me a set of riggers. I went to his home and borrowed 2 electric Big Jon riggers with 3' booms traxstech swivel basis for using them in my tracks. I made a great friend that day and I consider him to be one of the very few people I call one of my best friends ever. he will treat you right.

if I could pick my 10 I would buy a lot. but getting 10 spoons that may only have a few that I would ever use for walleye on Erie. so I wish you luck selling them all soon. I would like to have the top 2 and 4th on the left then the 2nd and 4th from the top on the right in lot 1. lot 3 the 4th one from the left in the top row and the last 1 on the right in the bottom row. 2nd and 4th down on the left row then 2 down right row lot 4. this would top out the 10 I would choose.

deep woods off works great for us. I keep a spray can onboard at all times.

if nobody can help you on here try eBay and see what they may have. i have bought a couple and a couple of motor doghouses for a Mercruiser 5.7 motor off eBay. shipping was a little high but well worth it after getting a fair price on them.