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you are a great person, KUDOS to you for being a great sportsman. I had a 21' cobia glass open bow boat with a 5.7 Vortec motor and I had used plates for many years. then we found a set in the road near the marina. after trying to find the owner with no luck my son suggested we give them a try one day. it took us a few minutes to figure out how far back to run them and have them work like they should. these were 36" bags. We fish for walleye on Erie and troll with the wind which pushed us very fast but those 36" bags were great. with both bags out we had to bump the throttle up to get up to trolling speed. and some days we only used one bag then on very calm days with my motor idled down to 500 RPMs we didn't use any bags at all. if at all possible it's better to have bags that are a little larger than what you need. it's always better to be able to go too slow than not slow enough. you can always bump the throttle up to get up to speed but there isn't any way to get slower if your bags are too small. another thing you can also use the wind to help control the speed when using bags,
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South Carolina stripers and wild boar
sherman brown replied to Kevin J Legg's topic in Big / Small Game
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if it bothers you go to Google or YouTube and search for wiring up the radio you have. I haven't wired up a VHF radio for years but the best I remember I only used the plus and negative wires. I believe the other wires might be for external speakers or a PA system. but don't quote that as I'm not sure about any of this except just using the power and ground wires.
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it's really hard to suggest one over the other. all of them will be good riggers. what I would do is look at what each one offers like speed, auto stop, and how they stop. I bought new Big Jon pro tournament riggers with auto-stop. the auto stop on them is a bead on the cable that trips a switch on the rigger boom. on our 3rd trip 1 rigger stop didn't work. the next day the other one stopped working. I believe with the speed they go when they start up using 12# weights the soft plastic beads holes were enlarged to a point they failed to keep working. no need to repair them as they wouldn't last. now we just watch the counters and stop them manually.
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for sale : usa Differents things mostly Lowrance
sherman brown replied to Andre wallyandre's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
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Guys running riggers in tracks
sherman brown replied to hookedupf7's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
I was running 3 Cannon ratcheting rod holders on 24" tracks but they were too close for me but they did work. A 36" trach should give you the extra room for your rigger mounted at the very back of the track and have extra space between your holders. you should be good. where are you getting 30" tracks? and what brand are they? Usually track size goes 24" then they jump to 36" and so on. i have looked at Traxstech, Cannon, and Cisco tracks, and all of them jumps to 36" and Cisco has the best price of these brands. -
I agree totally with what you're saying. A clip-on weight doesn't release the weight like the rigs I was talking about. Back when I was fishing Lake Michigan for salmon to many guys didn't have riggers and used the drop weight setup to get them down. they were designed to release the weight when a fish hit. I don't have any problem with anyone using inline or clip-on weights. good luck out there and here's wishing you a very great season this coming season.
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if he drops the lead ball so he can freely fight the fish in my opinion this is not being a good sportsman. That is the only way I've seen lead weights like that used. it usually has an inline clip that attaches the weight to the line, then when a fish hits it releases the lead ball which drops to the bottom of the lake. so many better ways to get the lure down without filling the lake with lead. using an inline weight like the ones at rednekoutfitters.com they have them from 1 oz up to 6 oz. these work great for getting fairly deep. another great way is to get the lite bite slide diver and the 7 oz kit for them. then if you want to get deeper use wire line. I use them like a dipsy and do not use the slide part I lace my leader through the block in the back and then I just tie an O=RING to my leader and I'm ready to tie a lure on and start fishing., actually, just a regular slide diver would work on salmon. but for walleye on Erie, the lite bite is priceless for releasing on small fish.
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I use cannon single axis because they can be set using one hand. at times I start letting my divers out without setting my rod holder where I want it so it's easy to fix this using just one hand. I kept letting the diver out with one hand and using the other hand to set the holder. but if the 1 hand operation doesn't matter to you then by all means get the ratcheting traxstech holders. they are solid holders that have 17 spots to set them in, whereas I believe the cannon only has 5 or 6 spots to set them.
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the holders are far enough forward they should clear the handle with some extra room. i have 2 Big Jon electric riggers with Big Jon dual holders mounted on them. i have used the crank several times for small adjustments and the manual crank had plenty of space. and as an option, you may be able to install mounts for your braces far enough ahead to attach your mounts so that you have the whole thing clear. but this is just something you might check out. just take the brace loose at the bottom and move it forward until it could be mounted and SEE IF IT STILL SUPPORTS THE TOP. then if it will work you can add mounts where you can move the braces to the front for fishing then if you wanted you could move them back.
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all the old 2-stroke motors were made to run at higher RPMs for optimum performance. and the newer 4 strokes are probably made to run higher for optimum performance but I don't think using a small HP motor for trolling would ever hurt the motor. even a car at idle will have less oil pressure than it does at higher RPMs. but when running at low RPMs it also has so much less strain on the motor and the lower oil pressure is still high enough to oil the motor. the companies that make these lower HP motors have a pretty good notion they will be used as a kicker. and a lot of them are used at idle for many many years. i have an old 2000 model year 9.9 HP Merc for my kicker on my boat so it is already 23 years old and still running sweet and strong. i did have to have the carb rebuilt a couple of years ago. I used an old 79 Merc tower of power inline-six 115 HP for trolling for many years and then while it was still running great the boat was in bad shape. I bought another boat that had a 115 HP Johnson so I sold the old Merc. police cars are idled for so many hours then they will still get 2 or 3 hundred thousand miles on them. i have seen lots of them for sale with well over 200,000 miles on them. and the hours idling couldn't have hurt the motor at all.
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those HP four stroke motors will do just what you want. you can manually lower your RPMs by screwing out the idle screw on the card. another option if you don't need to slow down a lot is to drop the pitch on your prop. a 9p prop is supposed to move the boat 9" for every rotation whereas a 7p is only 7" therefore slowing your boat down and running the same RPM. just FYI using a bag for me is much better than using a plate. just make sure you get a trolling bag and not a drift sock. a trolling bag can be used for a drift sock but a drift sock isn't made right to work good trolling. if you do try using a plate get the Easy Troller short plate. if you try a bag try going to amishoutfitters.com and they can help you with the size you need. and so you know using either of these will not hurt a four stroke in the least. running the motor at lower RPMs than factory settings won't hurt it either as long as the motor is running smoothly. I have been using my 5.7 Mercruiser for trolling but it was going a little faster than I wanted and I idled it down to 500 RPMs and that took care of my speed problem. I was going to idle it back up but that was a few years ago and it's still set on 500. I like to troll with the wind for better boat control. and when I do I go way too fast so then I use my bags to slow me down. and I use bags just a little bigger than I need so then I can get very slow and just bump the throttle up a little if I want to run faster, I used a happy troller plate for many years. then I went to the easy troller that I liked better. then I tried using bags and have never looked back.
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for sale : usa WTB 12lb downrigger balls
sherman brown replied to fishin2's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
I admit I was also fooled when buying a Fishfinder off the FB marketplace. the guy didn't have a PP account. we tried to figure out a way to pay him. after a few days, he came up with a friend that said we could use his account but only if we used friends and family. i didn't even think about being scammed. after I paid that was the last time I heard from him or the guy that had an account. PP couldn't help because I paid the money to a friend. but I went to my bank and disputed the charge and was able to get the charge reversed. after the first time, you would have learned something. I found another unit I wanted to buy but he didn't have any way for me to pay him as PP was the only service I had. After I tried getting one he had it and never let me use it. then he came up with using Zelle through my bank. when I was paying I realized it was like giving him the cash. I had second thoughts but I really wanted this FishFinder, so I paid him thinking no way would I get scammed two times in a row. WRONG!!!!!!!!! however, I did get what I wanted and paid with goods and services on PP. but not before another guy tried to scam me. he wanted me to pay friends and family because he was using a business account that froze the money for 30 days. but now I knew better. then he came up with a friend's account and let me pay for goods and services. after I paid I asked when he was going to ship it. he came back with the payment being frozen for some reason and I needed to go to PP and click on the item received. but I knew if I did that he would be gone with my money. so i said he had been paid and the money was in his account so he could ship now. but he said he didn't want to ship it until he had part of the money in his hand. that's when I said if he shipped it by priority mail I would have it in 2 days and could click item received and he could get his money. The money was in his account and i couldn't get it back so the money was his. After a very short time, I went to PP and filed a dispute that he was a scam. I had my money back in less than 2 hours. -
it comes down to more people who don't normally get limits. with the extra rod, they have a better chance of getting more fish or even limits that they wouldn't otherwise catch. when they set limits they factor in that most people don't get their limit. after time if more people are getting more fish the limit will have to be reduced to make sure they aren't overharvested. if the population of the fish numbers are stable then they should be left alone. but if the numbers are rising then an extra rod wouldn't hurt anything for a while. but if the numbers are reduced to low then something would have to be done. I remember Lake Erie had so many walleye they didn't have a limit for years. but as more fishermen became aware of the fantastic walleye fishing and started fishing Erie. as the fishermen grew in numbers the amount of fish was reduced to the point they had to put a limit on the fish. the limit has been anywhere from 10 to 4 walleye on Erie just since I started fishing on Erie.
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for sale : usa Boat Trailer (SOLD)
sherman brown replied to FISHINMAN's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
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I hope you get everything worked out. but if it gives you enough room for tracks and 3 holders by moving the top forward. all you would need to do is move the top mounts forward and then set your posts as far forward as you can and not affect using the top too much. it is definitely something I would be looking at. but this is only my opinion though. if the mounts you use now won't work you can find many styles on the net.
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Guys running riggers in tracks
sherman brown replied to hookedupf7's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
if you don't have enough room for a backing plate a fender washer would be better than not having anything. and as long as most are bolted on with backing and nuts I believe they would never come loose. and I agree with others that a locking nut would serve you better than a standard nut that might vibrate loose over time. the 1 trip was the only time I bused riggers on my tracks. but I did run 3 diver rods per side with mine screwed on and never had a screw come loose in all the years I used that boat. we bought a used larger boat 2 years ago and I mounted the tracks on it with screws. One thing I do is drill my holes just large enough that the screws are a tight fit but not tight enough they get stuck on the way in. but I have no plans to ever run riggers off my tracks. the cannon riggers that we are using now came with the boat and are mounted to a board going across the rear of the boat so they are left on the boat. on my old boat, I had 2 Big Jon riggers that were mounted on the back cross-section inside the boat. we also used that boat for playing in the water so I used the Big Jon slide mounts so i could just slide them off. -
my top leaned a bit down in the front but not enough to cause any problems. all I did was move my back support braces as far forward as I could get away with. That gave me enough extra room for my holders on tracks. on my last top, it used straps instead of the posts. on it I had my back straps going almost straight down to the cleats. but good luck working out the best way to fish with your bimini top in use. Have you considered moving the complete top forward on the boat?
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why not just get tracks as long enough that they will fit on your gunnel and mount all your rods to the tracks? I started with 24" tracks to run 3 diver rigs on each side. They worked but were just too close together. I then added another 24" track and that gave me the room I needed to space my rigs apart. then when my oldest son and I bought a larger used boat I added another 24" track. now I run 3 Cannon ratcheting holders per side plus a spare holder and a Traxstech angled holder per side for putting our Ego S2 slider rod holders in and have plenty of spacing plus a little extra room. go as long as you can fit on your gunnels. SK8man uses 17" tracks to run 3 rigs. For me, that would be too close together for the reels to have good clearance for removing the rods with a fish on. I started with 24" tracks which had my line counter reels almost touching each other. when a fish hit I found it troublesome to grab that rod and have the reel not hit another reel. but what works for one doesn't always mean it's going to work for everyone.
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Guys running riggers in tracks
sherman brown replied to hookedupf7's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
I had 2 24" tracks with 1 butted up about 3" away from the ends. then I had 2 rod holders with 2 rods running lite bite slide divers and the rigger at the very back of the track. but tying the riggers to the back cleat for safety gave me peace of mind so I could concentrate on fishing. i only ran them for a week but without anything coming loose. when I installed my tracks using screws to hold them on I was a little anxious about them failing. so I installed 2 of my Cannon ratcheting holders and set them out to the side I then took hold of them and lifted all my 250# body and held on and even bounced up and down to see if the tracks were safe to use. After that test, I never worried about them coming loose using 3 holders with 3 rigs using 3 of the lite bite slide divers per side. the 24" track just wasn't long enough to have enough space between the rods and reels. Instead of buying a longer track, I got 2 more of the 24" and added them on. my oldest son and I bought a larger boat so I bought 2 Cisco 24" tracks and added them on. now i have extra room with mu 3 rigs and an extra holder as a spare and a Traxstech angled fixed holder on each side with an Ego S2 slider dip net on each side. -
Guys running riggers in tracks
sherman brown replied to hookedupf7's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
the only time I did it I had forgotten my riggers at home in Indiana when we went to Geneva Ohio walleye fishing. a great guy on a fishing forum I was on sent me a message after I posted about missing my riggers. he let me borrow 2 Big Jon electric with 3' boons and we were using 12# pancake weights. the only mounts he had that we could use were track mounts. I was worried because I put my track on using stainless screws. when I got them set I took a rope and tied the riggers to the boat so if the track failed we wouldn't lose his riggers. we used them for the week we were up there fishing. the tracks had held up great with nothing coming loose or pulling out. but I do not recommend running riggers with screws used to fasten the tracks on. if you are going to use your riggers in your tracks using some kind of backing is a must. you don't have to put a backing on where you can't get to them. i do recommend using bolts with countersunk screw heads and the size that will work in the tracks. on the bottom use any size backing that you can fit on them. I have mounted riggers to the gunnels on some old boats I owned 35 or 50 years ago. what I used was the large SS Fender Washers. I did this for years and never had one come loose. -
I have never lubricated the rollers on the roller trailers I have owned. but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have been. the 1st thing you should do is go to factory websites that make roller trailers and message a few of them asking your question. I have always bought used boats and trailers. if I found any of the rollers were excessively worn I went to etrailer.com and checked on eBay and Amazon to find what I wanted at the best price. in all my searches E-Trailer was where I bought mine. after replacing the ones that were maybe 25 years old and worn I never looked back. if the MFG doesn't have an answer for you then there may not be a good answer.
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by you already buying the hydraulic steering this post is a bit late. the only reason I could see it helping with a 90HP motor would be if you are planning to put a kicker motor and an autopilot on the big motor. then when you are trolling you can use the kicker attached to the big motor and use the autopilot without the key for the big motor ever being turned on. now that you have the hydraulic steering you need to troll with a small kicker. they make all types of steering kits that connect the motors together up front. in my opinion, they are much better for outboard to outboard steering over the EZ-steer. having hydraulic steering takes all the pressure off your autopilot and it will last much longer that way.
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Wanted Cannon mounting tracks
sherman brown replied to Robo's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
mine are too long. I bought 24" thinking they would be long enough. They worked but running 3 divers per side they were crowded. But instead of getting longer tracks, I got more 24" and added them on. we got a larger boat that had lots of room so I added the 24" Cisco tracks to what I already had so I had room to mount a spare Cannon rod holder and a Traxstech angled holder for the dip nets. -
Wanted Cannon mounting tracks
sherman brown replied to Robo's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent