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WANTED: charter 10/26, party of 4 lower Niagara/bar
Jomat replied to moonfish's topic in Open Lake Discussion
I would recommend Ted Kessler. Late October is probably kings in devils hole….or bass. -
In my experience, if you’re looking for fillets the most consistent is Onieda. BRB and Chaumont are both really inconsistent IMO….fish are there/then gone. Most of the fish I catch out of both bays are big spawners id rather not eat. Very rewarding when you do find them and make them bite tho. Of the two BRB is the more consistent for the time period you listed….just my opinion.
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That wind is gonna be no bueno for fishing….lake should be rolling out of the west pretty good with sustained 20 for 3 days. We aren’t starting derby fishing until Monday. But there should be some warm water up high in the water column and a bunch of Ohio punching bags for the meat fishermen…..but where will the 30”ers be? That’s the question.
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Ted Kessler is a great fisherman and a great teacher. He’ll put you on the best fishing whether upper river, lower river, or buffalo harbor area.
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Just got back. Fished out of Barcelona Saturday morning until about noon and Saturday night until about830- 11pm. Same area….relatively small amount of water 14-50’. Lotta guys out with the nice weather and the tourney out of Dunkirk. I was doing some scouting for the derby. Landed 10 Saturday morning 18-25”…missed some bites, half a dozen sheep’s, a big cattie, and some big perch. Best bite was in 35-41’. Fished the same area but shallower Saturday night, after dark no more sheep heads, walleye bite was consistent landed 10 in about 2.5 hours. All around 20”…..all on lures run within 8’ of the surface, regardless of depth. Couldn’t find any derby worthy fish and it looks like the pros in the tournament couldn’t either. Good bite on eater fish tho. Didn’t make much difference what u had in the water…caught fish on an assortment of stick baits, crankbaits, and harnesses.
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Some decent weights this year. Might have to get back in it next year….kinda miss it.
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Not trying to argue with you but here’s some bass tourney results….. https://www.wired2fish.com/news/avena-wins-bass-pro-tour-on-cayuga-lake These guys are filling bags with 5lb plus average fish. Those are St Lawrence and Lake Erie numbers which are World Class smallmouth fisheries. If you think that gobies are bad for bass fishing I really don’t know what to tell you. I can’t speak to sunfish but gobies have turned our bass and walleye fisheries in NY into destinations.
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I just think as fisherman it’s easy to complain about how “it’s not like it used to be”…the reality is though it’s kinda our job to adapt to keep putting fish on the bank. The environment isn’t going to quit changing regardless if you think global warming is a hoax. And the fishing in NY is absolutely incredible right now….and I think on a whole getting better.
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I think the state record bass was just caught in Cayuga again. There are lots of bass in Cayuga. I know guys that travel some distance to crush large panfish up on the north end in the weeds. If you’re fishing off a rock on the shore in Ithaca , then I could absolutely see why u catch less fish than 20 years ago. Water is clearer and the fish are deeper. Cayuga is def not devoid of life, its fishing better than I can ever remember.
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fwiw I have a garmin gt54 transducer on the transom of my boat and after playing around with the adjustment angle I was able to mark fish/bottom at 20+mph with the scroll speed turned up. (They just look like yellow dots). Think I just had to move it one click on the bracket….just can’t remember if it was up or down.
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Actually I came away from the experiment thinking scent matters even less. The fact that the yellow perch and white bass didn’t eat them to me says those bycatch species are keying on the worm. The fact that the walleyes didn’t seem to know the difference to me says they’re keying on the blade. This is confirmed I think by the fact that only a couple different blades were working….several blades wouldn’t get touched in what I would consider a “wide open” bite. Of course these triggering factors can and do change….this pattern was consistent over a week.
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Got these some solid runtime last week so wanted to give a review for u guys that run blades/harnesses. They def keep bycatch down. IMO this is the biggest drawback of using real crawlers. Sheep’s, White bass and yellow perch did not eat them….walleyes did. In addition way more durable, caught several fish on the same one. When ur done throw them back in the gulp nasty snot water and fish them again the next day. Colors are awesome…highly recommend the “smelt”. Much easier to rig on the boat in waves than a regular crawler and much more consistent presentation. That flat/thin tail has a great action in the water. In a head to head comparison the fish prolly still seemed to prefer real by a slight edge but I caught plenty of fish on them. I think they’ll really shine for guys that burn willow harnesses behind divers in the summer. Will give the 4”ers a spin on Onieda the week of the 4th on a mix of small harnesses and slow death….will let u know how those fish like them.
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There was a big whack of fish west of the harbor down by the PA border, and we ran into several pods of very active fish east of the harbor to van buren. It’s a 12 mile stretch. Drive around in 45-60’ and you’ll see them…unless they move….if the water temp stays consistent I doubt they will…the big west wind last week didn’t move them. More active fish will be suspended. Like I said the eaters didn’t want cranks so much last week, of course that can change as well.
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Walleye Tournament Winners on Lake Erie caught cheating (LEWT 2022)
Jomat replied to rolmops's topic in Open Lake Discussion
When I weighed a top 5 fish in at the Southtowns derby they had a metal detector they ran alongside the fish, then stuck a big metal rod down it’s throat to feel for anything solid, then I had to wrap and freeze the fish so they could autopsy if they wanted, then had to take the polygraph. Every weigh station had this stuff. Was shocked to see they didn’t do the same at the fall brawl last year with far more money on the line. Polygraph clearly not a good enough test/deterrent.