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Anyone ever try the saltwater freestyle jigs? I have done well on bass and all sorts of saltwater stuff with them. Even got a flathead catfish in the Ohio river with one.

Sounds like a great morning.

Looks like a great couple of days! Nice job and thanks for the post!

Whaler, thank you so much for taking us! Had a lot of fun and learned a lot also.

Nice!!! Thanks for the report.

Thanks guys! Fishing more stable conditions makes sense. The more water you can take off your plan makes a smaller area to focus on. Hope this conversation helps someone else someday also.

When I was sampling Lake Erie, I did not have a reason to watch surface temps that closely so I have not looked into it. I would think direct reading (where cloud cover is not an issue) would be better than a model every time. Models by definition try to predict observations. I worked with some modelers for Erie. Their goal was to predict upwelling events so water intakes could be ready for the change in water quality. It worked somewhat, but Erie has a wind driven circulation that often causes the thermocline to be shaped like a bowl sitting in the lake. While I was sampling they could not account for that added complexity.

Makes sense. Not much difference in density so easy to move and mix. So do you guess the fish are on the cold side or at the temperature break?

It does not seem that the Niagara plume is the whole story though. I still wonder why the two sources from NOAA look different.

Thanks guys. Just wishing I could develope a better game plan based on the info available. You have a lot more experience than I have with salmon. It is hard to gain years of experience quickly. Thanks for the advice!

Thank you! Sounds like we try what we can and hope to fail our way to success. Here is a screen shot from 5/30. Same day as Gill's. Why the difference? Both NOAA. How do I know which is correct from 200 miles away?

So it did cool down? Does the cooler water bring in kings? Do you look for temperature breaks? How do you adapt to that situation?