Hello All,
I am new to this forum and new to trolling for salmon out on the great Lake Ontario .
Before getting into the meat of my question, I thought it would be good to give a background on what we're doing so far, so maybe you can suggest something that will be suitable for our situation.
I have been pier fishing salmon for several years, but this year I decided to try trolling with my fishing buddy. My fishing buddy rents a pleasure boat, so no rod holders nor rails to mount trolling equipment. We simply tie the rods to the boat using ropes and pray we don't lose them; sometimes we hold them in our hands and pray. Three rods in total, 2 dipsys off to the side: one with a spin doctor + fly on 40lbs braided mainline to 30lbs fluoro leader, the other dipsy with a simple fly + spoon on 30lbs braided mainline and 30lbs fluoro leader, and last one right down the middle stern using a heavy trolling weight + spoon on 30lbs braided mainline and 30lbs mono setup.
We've caught all sorts of salmonids on these rods and reels, but they were all medium-heavy spinning rods between 8-9ft length, so no line counters. It has been somewhat difficult to gauge depth and I believe it directly affects our productivity in the waters. That's why I wanted to change out one of the rods we use for our dipsy, and go for something more tuned-in for trolling w/ divers. But the added twist to it is that I wish to use it for kayak fishing sometimes too, when the rented boat is not available.
I'm using an inflatable kayak roughly 12.5ft long and it has a rod holder mount to it. I don't plan to troll deep when using the kayak, maybe a max depth of 10-20ft, and will probably throw in spoons/j-13 instead of dipsys, but I'd still like to use the same rod+reel for it, even if it's a little overkill for the job.
Based on these needs, I believe I am looking for:
Rod: An 8-9ft "dipsy" rod (I put them in quotes because I don't know if they are specifically different to normal or downrigger rods), medium-heavy power, but I'm not sure if moderate or fast action would be better? I typically use fast action but I think moderate would help absorb more shock and give enough time for salmon to bite down on treble hooks while trolling? Please let me know your thoughts on this.
Reel: A reel with line counter and relatively smooth drag system. I'll be going for 30-40lbs braid for my mainline, and maybe a 40-50lb mono backing if needed. I'm used to 5-6:1 gear ratios but from what I've read so far, 4-5:1 gear ratio would be more ideal because I get more torque which makes it easier to reel while fighting heavier fish? Of course, a reliable line counter is a must. If possible, I'd love to be able to cast with these kind of reels from a kayak, so free-spool would be great. Not ideal, I know, but I'm hoping there is something out there like this.
I'm trying to spend less than $200 CAD (or $144 USD) for each, but I'm willing to go more expensive if there's better value or fits my needs better. A lot of demands and a small budget, I know . Looking forward to some good recommendations either way.