State Money !!!

[Lucky13]

41 minutes ago, Gill-T said:

Stocking is funded by money earmarked from the federal Pittman-Robertson Act. It has nothing to do with who is in office at any level. Might I suggest sprinkling in some news stations other than just Fox to learn about all the things Fox is not telling you. 

Pittman Robertson funding is wildlife related.  Dingall Johnson is fisheries related, Aid to Sport Fish Restoration.  It was amended by Wallop- Breaux, which added items to be excise taxed and required that it be divided between fresh and saltwater programming based on a percentage of anglers using each, among other earmarking.  Since we don't require a marine license to use to count heads, it led to creation of the Marine registry requirement.  If I read right, it was ~9.2 million in 2023, and it is used for way more than the hatchery program.  Also, please do not forget that the 40+ million generated to the conservation fund, by  the sale of hunting and fishing licenses.

[thumbburn]

The people that are whining are the people that voted for you know who….. they are the real ones that can’t accept the truth…. This crap is everywhere because things are really FUBAR…..

[GAMBLER]

11 hours ago, rolmops said:

My 409 went up by well over 30%

But the money you spent on groceries, everyday stuff, gas and heating your home made that a loss.  Everything has gotten more expensive in the past three years.  

[rolmops]

18 minutes ago, GAMBLER said:

But the money you spent on groceries, everyday stuff, gas and heating your home made that a loss.  Everything has gotten more expensive in the past three years.  

Prices did not go up 30%. And just imagine how much worse it would have been for me if my retirement savings would not have gone up 30%.

I'm not complaining.

 

[GAMBLER]

4 hours ago, rolmops said:

Prices did not go up 30%. And just imagine how much worse it would have been for me if my retirement savings would not have gone up 30%.

I'm not complaining.

 

You're right, they only went up 20-25% in four year period.  Groceries went up 25%.  A lot of financial analysts are saying if the economy doesn't change direction, the stock market is going to take a huge tumble.  That will help your 409 plan.....

[HB2]

Many NYC business leaders are concerned they are next because what he got convicted of is common business practice . Kathy said not to worry , it's just Trump . So she just admitted it is a vendetta against only him. Election interference . That should concern any American . I don't know how anyone can honestly say its better now than when he was president . Polls show Americans are waking up . 

 

The problem is your political choices can affect you fishing or hunting  .  Your freedoms allow you to be able to go . 

There are proposed laws to ban hunting  tournaments . Fishing could be next . And please don't tell me it couldn't happen . I would never have thought I would see what I'm seeing now . 

[GAMBLER]

23 minutes ago, HB2 said:

Many NYC business leaders are concerned they are next because what he got convicted of is common business practice . Kathy said not to worry , it's just Trump . So she just admitted it is a vendetta against only him. Election interference . That should concern any American . I don't know how anyone can honestly say its better now than when he was president . Polls show Americans are waking up . 

 

The problem is your political choices can affect you fishing or hunting  .  Your freedoms allow you to be able to go . 

There are proposed laws to ban hunting  tournaments . Fishing could be next . And please don't tell me it couldn't happen . I would never have thought I would see what I'm seeing now . 

The NYC business leaders voted for this.....  

 

It could happen and more than likely will down the road.   

[fisherdude]

Trump's not running for you or I he's running to save his hide. I seen a news clip yesterday Leticia James is asking the judge to seize assets if Trump can't come up with the cash for the bond. Rumor Has It ,heard it several times Gavin Newsom sliding in at the last moment. that'll be a totally different race for Trump. It will bring back all the Democrats that have questions of voting for Biden . Which time there's not enough maga's to overcome the Democrat vote.

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[finsntins]

newsome,now thats funny!!!could be the only candidate worse than jello head joe,oh wait,i almost forgot about the cackling hyena harris.fisherdude,do yourself a favor and look up the sean hannity debate from a few months ago,between, newsome and desantis and watch the incredible embarrassment newsome made of himself on live tv!!!!newsome is doing such a great job running california,that the state has the highest outflow of people and businesses in the country,only second  too.....yup,new york state.doesnt matter which socialist democrat runs,if the states do away with mail in voting,ballot harvesting and drop boxes and require id for in person voting,trump wins by 10 million+ votes.and for those of you that are going to say that mail in voting is secure,just go look what happened couple weeks ago in nevada primary,all mail in ballots were counted,even if the people didnt send them in!!!!!and of coarse the nevada secretary of state claims it was just a computer glitch,wonder how many"computer glitches" there were in 2020??? 

[Sk8man]

We are screwed either way the election goes because we no longer have competent, honest, or intelligent candidates. Pull the plug on NATO and China/Russia/Iran/North Korea will be clapping, bring in all the illegals including Chinese males between 20 and 35 who go to the firing ranges first thing, Kick out veterans from housing and install illegals in their place etc., etc. etc. This no longer resembles the America I once knew and spent four years of my life serving thinking it was a good thing. It makes me glad to be at the age I'm at. Each of the personalities are very flawed with self-interest at the heart of things while the issues aren't being looked at only the "reality show" content. We need to think more deeply not just about the party crap.

Edited February 21 by Sk8man

[rolmops]

3 hours ago, GAMBLER said:

The NYC business leaders voted for this.....  

 

It could happen and more than likely will down the road.   

I really understand where you are coming from. but there are a few weak links in your argument. First of all: the fact that a lot of people do illegal things, does not make those actions legal.  For example, speeding is illegal, but a lot of people do it anyway, thereby taking a chance on getting caught and fined. Would you defend those people or would you say ,well that's the chance he took?

Second, there is the fact that the value of properties was either over valuated for loan interest calculations OR underestimated for property tax calculations. So now the coffers of NYS were underpaid. This did hurt many people, because that missing money was made up for by having to tax other people more or plans came to nothing. The nice new paving on route 104 or route 18 and the good schools we have in NYS (try and compare them to most southern states and you will see how good they are) has to be paid somehow and you and I know quite well that a lot of that money comes from New York City tax income.

So instead of defending somebody who cheats because "everybody does it" it might make more sense to try and support the straight shooters.

Edited February 21 by rolmops

[HB2]

It's up to the loan appraiser  to decide what the fair market value is of the property .Not the bowerer or the Gov.  When they issue the loan THEY become the primary lien holder so in case of default , they can for close ,sell and get their money back. That has nothing to do with tax assessment . And where did the loan money go? It got used to put up another building the gov can tax the crap out of . What missing money ? There is no victim here .Only winners and as NYS residents we are some of those . And a portion of that money probably goes to our fishing program  .  

 

Straight Shooters ? Are you kidding me? That's a joke right ? 

 

If you voted Joe , all the woes we are experiencing as a country are your fault . 

 

NATO isn't going anywhere. But Trump made the county's sitting on their wallet pay up . That's a good thing and will make NATO stronger .

 

 

[Lucky13]

3 hours ago, fisherdude said:

Trump's not running for you or I he's running to save his hide. I seen a news clip yesterday Leticia James is asking the judge to seize assets if Trump can't come up with the cash for the bond. Rumor Has It ,heard it several times Gavin Newsom sliding in at the last moment. that'll be a totally different race for Trump. It will bring back all the Democrats that have questions of voting for Biden . Which time there's not enough maga's to overcome the Democrat vote.

Oh, please, you would vote for Hairspray after seeing the state of California, what he's done about San Fransisco and Los Angeles? Good publicists should be able to make mincemeat from Nancy's nephew.  

Edited February 21 by Lucky13

[Lucky13]

11 hours ago, rolmops said:

Prices did not go up 30%. And just imagine how much worse it would have been for me if my retirement savings would not have gone up 30%.

I'm not complaining.

 

Not all prices went up 30%, but some have gone up more.  I've been watching land prices for a while now in hopes of finding something I could afford up on the Tug Hill.  10 acre area plots that sold regularly for less than 3 K per acre prior to the current debacle in DC are now regularly advertised for 5K per acre or more.  If it's less than 3 K its 90+ acres, or its all regulated wetland.

 

Are you all in on another of your fearless leader's proposals, taxation of unrealized income?  That'd take care of the growth in your 401(K).   And the stock market only started to rise in the last 6 months out of the last 3.5 years, imagine how much more your retirement would have grown if it hadn't stalled for much of that time. 

[fisherdude]

1 hour ago, Lucky13 said:

Oh, please, you would vote for Hairspray after seeing the state of California, what he's done about San Fransisco and Los Angeles? Good publicists should be able to make mincemeat from Nancy's nephew.  

No I wouldn't vote for Governor Gavin Newsom . Never voted for a Democrat  president. I plan on checking the other box and vote for the best Upstate pizza maker, papa Zeno . I think the Democrats would rally around Governor Gavin Newsom to be against Trump. The guy can lay down the BS but he is a very smooth talker... 

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[Lucky13]

1 hour ago, rolmops said:

I really understand where you are coming from. but there are a few weak links in your argument. First of all: the fact that a lot of people do illegal things, does not make those actions legal.  For example, speeding is illegal, but a lot of people do it anyway, thereby taking a chance on getting caught and fined. Would you defend those people or would you say ,well that's the chance he took?

Second, there is the fact that the value of properties was either over valuated for loan interest calculations OR underestimated for property tax calculations. So now the coffers of NYS were underpaid. This did hurt many people, because that missing money was made up for by having to tax other people more or plans came to nothing. The nice new paving on route 104 or route 18 and the good schools we have in NYS (try and compare them to most southern states and you will see how good they are) has to be paid somehow and you and I know quite well that a lot of that money comes from New York City tax income.

So instead of defending somebody who cheats because "everybody does it" it might make more sense to try and support the straight shooters.

So exactly how much were the "coffers of NYS" underpaid?  I have yet to hear anyone anywhere put a dollar value on this " fraud".   And why did it take 3 plus years for Letitia "Beria" James to find an obscure statute that has never been employed in this manner before with which to fulfill her campaign promises?  In a lot of places, an AG who is involved in the commercial real estate business herself would be expected to recuse themselves from a case involving a potential competitor, but I guess there are different standards of "ethics" operating in a state where the Governor can give 80 million for a stadium where her husband profits from the concessions. 

[rolmops]

As for the stadium. I agree that this is a bloody shame. Why should my tax money go to subsidize a stadium that is owned by a billionaire to begin with? But on the other hand, I really doubt that a republican governor would have made a different decision.

Maybe gambler can explain to me why Maggie Brooks husband was promoted to preside over the Monroe County water authority? Come to think of it, was he not involved in some onerous business together with a few more republican party boys? I wonder whatever happened to that criminal investigation.

To make a long story short. Corruption is everywhere and does not belong to one party or another. That is why there is a legal system independent of the other parts of government.

 

Edited February 21 by rolmops

[muskiedreams]

Was this site bought out by Untruth social?

Or the

Malevolent

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Association

[whaler1]

2 hours ago, muskiedreams said:

Was this site bought out by Untruth social?

Or the

Malevolent

American

Grifters

Association

Pathetic. 

[HB2]

The guy is kicking butt in the polls . They can't get him on an  IRS audit or something like that ( God knows they tried ) so they will ruin him financially with a bogus charge . Very American of the left . And the best , or worst part is there are people ,some on here , who are good with it because they hate him . 

 

 

[finsntins]

6 hours ago, rolmops said:

As for the stadium. I agree that this is a bloody shame. Why should my tax money go to subsidize a stadium that is owned by a billionaire to begin with? But on the other hand, I really doubt that a republican governor would have made a different decision.

Maybe gambler can explain to me why Maggie Brooks husband was promoted to preside over the Monroe County water authority? Come to think of it, was he not involved in some onerous business together with a few more republican party boys? I wonder whatever happened to that criminal investigation.

To make a long story short. Corruption is everywhere and does not belong to one party or another. That is why there is a legal system independent of the other parts of government.

 

legal system is independent of the government,now thats gotta be the most ignorant statement in this whole conversation!!!!george sorros billions=wingnut lefty judges and prosecutors=the liberal government to prosecute their political opponents,sound familiar????

[Gill-T]

I have a question to pose. Has Fox News reported on how the informant in the 3 year Hunter Biden Burisma story was  arrested for making up the whole thing by getting his info from Russian intelligence? Probably not much.  Has Fox News shown any texts messages from Hanity, Tucker, or Laura that were made public in the Dominion case where they all state they know the election steal was a lie and they think Trump is an  idiot?  Probably not. How many of Trump’s circle have either plead guilty to crimes or are currently being investigated?  I typically lean to the right on my voting but I gladly placed a default vote for Biden to keep the Insurrectionist and Chief out of office. This insanity of clinging to a lying criminal by the brainwashed MAGA crowd has kept the Republican Party from promoting a decent candidate.  Do we really believe in a country made up of 331 million people that these candidates are the best of the best?  Reagan is rolling over in his grave with Trump’s love affair with all things Putin. I don’t get it. We should demand better. We deserve better. Trump didn’t beat Biden the first time because Independents like me chose Biden. There will be even more Independents voting Democratic this time around. Trump can’t win. 

[finsntins]

well gill,i want to personally thank you for dragging out the scamdemic for years,inflation hitting all time high,national debt hitting an all time high,gas prices coming close to an all time high,crime hitting an all time high in just about all major cities,and letting in the most illegal alliens ever in us history,you being an independent and leaning right really makes you a patriot!!!!!

[whaler1]

I’d still fish with him though

[rolmops]

1 hour ago, finsntins said:

legal system is independent of the government,now thats gotta be the most ignorant statement in this whole conversation!!!!george sorros billions=wingnut lefty judges and prosecutors=the liberal government to prosecute their political opponents,sound familiar????

Very interesting.

Would you please back up your statement with actual facts?

For now, all you have done is repeat spouting fascist love songs based  on zero fact.

The source of these statements is the Hungarian president who is out on a crusade against a university in Hungary which has been supported by George Soros who is a holocoust survivor who was born in Hungary. The Hungarian president is a Putin Lover who has been working hard to do Putin's will. I'm not so sure that you knew these pesky little facts