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  On 3/28/2025 at 6:14 PM, HB2 said:

Sorry Brian , I ain't buying it 

 

We need people in leadership positions that are problem solvers .

This is a problem , so fix it . The state has more employees per resident than any state in the country.  Figure it out . It doesn't have to be hatchery people . Be creative . Adapt , overcome . 

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Your thinking would only work in a state that give a sh*t about us outdoorsmen.  If they did, your thinking would be used.

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NY has a population of 19.6 million and NYSDEC employs just shy of 3,000.  This equates to 1.5 DEC employees per 10,000 residents.

 

Pennsylvania has population of 12.8 million and DEP employs 2,500 which equates to 2.0 DEP employees per 10,000 residents.

 

Ohio has population of 11.7 million and ODNR employs 3,300 which equates to 2.8 employees per 10,000 residents.

 

NYSDEC would need 3,920 employees to reach PA's ratio of 2 per 10,000 residents. They'd need 5,488 to reach ODNR ratio of 2.8. 

 

ODNR operates 6 hatcheries and stocks approx. 320 locations.

 

Pa Fish & Boat Commission (DEP) operates 12 hatcheries and stocks 823 locations.

 

NYSDEC operates 12 hatcheries plus the Lake Ontario Unit.  They stock over 1,200 locations.

 

Looks to me that NYSDEC does a lot more with less than these other states and is greatly understaffed.

 

Although some would, I would not rely on an apprentice plumber to fix an electrical problem in my house.

 


 

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I'm talking all NYS employees 

 

Am I to believe in the DEC  and SUNY system that there isn't a qualified scientist that could research and master this ? And then possibly train a few others to do this . If not ,it's  a pretty sad state of affairs .  I'm sure the Lampricide supplier has specs that need to be followed . Or quite possibly they may want their own techs to do the treatments .  

 

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