Wire for divers

[Bad Habit]

Been looking for wire for my diver rods. McMaster carr seems to have some good prices. I'm looking for ideas on what sizes people use. They have:

25 lb with a .012" dia

40 lb test with a .015 dia

55 lb test with a .018 dia

80 lb test with a .021 dia

I'm spooling a couple of Daiwa sealine 47lc's. Should I use backing or all wire. Thanks for any suggestions.

Rick

[FX]

30lb here. No backing, just spool 1000' on the Daiwa 47. Wrap electrical tape around the spool before the wire to prevent it from slipping on the spool. Spool the wire on very tight!

Shawn

[jeremyseg]

I use #30 wire on a diawa 47. The first time I went w/o backing as I was told it would fill the spool. It didn't quite fill up like I'd hoped so the next time I just used some old #8 mono I had laying around. I didn't tie it together, I just used the mono to take up about 1/8" or slightly less of the spool, then 1000' of wire. It fits perfectly and I assume I get a more accurate reading on the line counter. Thats just what works for me. You'll find out what works for you as well. It's just try and try again sometimes even with the best advice. Jeremy

[Billy V]

No backing needed. We run AFW 30# Camo - .012" diameter (ATOMMIK has the best price on it I've found). 1000' fills a Daiwa SG47LCA perfectly. Put it on very tightly as FX stated above.

[Gezijamez]

I also use the older 47lc's I do run backer I use braided diver line for backer and have never had a problem, reels are 15 years old and still going strong.

[zslnk]

Does anyone know how a Okuma Convector 30D takes 1000' of 7 strand 30lb wire? Do you require backing to fill the spool to about 1/8" as recommended in the manual?

Thanks

[spoonfed-1]

You will need backing on a Convector 30 to fill the spool to that 1/8 mark. I like to fill my reels to that mark so I use backing. Problem being it's been so long since I put wire on an Okuma I don't remeber how much you'll need. Come to think about it I don't even remeber if it was 30 lb or 20 lb wire I put on there.

You can always put your wire on one reel, then the backing to fill her up, then transfere the whole thing from one reel to another. Keep track of how much backing goes onto the 2nd reel before you hit the wire and you'll be good to go for any future reels you do.

Glen

[holy mackerel]

Okuma catalina 25 size holds 1000' with no backing nicely. Don't know if the still make them though, I think they changed the

Catalina line for 2010. You will like the oversize handle better than the Daiwas. I have fished alot with both.

[zslnk]

I found a reel fill calculator on the net (.xls sheet) and it worked perfectly. On a convector 30D with Stren 30lbs. back (100yrds) with Mason 7 strand (333yrds) filled it just below the lip. Pretty slick way to do it.

Thanks

[711skwerlz]

How do you terminate the wire? I lost a dipsy S/D and fly due to a failed knot last weekend. I ran them knotted last and they held up till now. I tied to a ball bearing swivel that clips to the dipsy.

[Billy V]

Must've been a broken strand or a a weak spot at your knot. I've tied that knot for years and have never had it fail either. Here's the knot that I use:

http://www.lotsa.org/Wire%20Line%20Knot.htm

[711skwerlz]

That isn't the knot I was using but it is now. FLXTroutman pointed out a video on Fishdoctorcharters.com that was great for tying that knot.

[Justin]

What knot does everyone use for the backer to the wire?

[zslnk]

I used 30lb mono as calculated by the reel fill calculator that is available on the web...

[Chautauqua Tony]

whats the advantage of running the wire for the dipsys? more depth?

[Tim Bromund]

Justin,

most of us just load 1000' of wire in the reel and be done with it, no backing. 1000' of 30 lb wire perfectly fills up a 47 size reel.

Tony,

advantages: more depth due to thin diameter and no stretch; wire gives off a harmonic vibration when going through the water that a lot of us feels attracts fish (I know my wire divers always get a lot more bites than the power pro divers and the power pro will get to about the same depths, so there may be something to it); with no stretch, wire is a lot of fun to fight fish on, you feel every head shake; with no stretch, you can have 300+' of wire out and get down 80+ feet, yet you can still trip the diver with flick of the wrist, not possible with the stretch of mono.

disadvantages: eventually you may have to replace the tip guide on the diver rod with a twilli tip if the wire wears a groove in the stock tip; nothing else that I can think of.

Tim

[711skwerlz]

Justin, This link wil show you how to tie a nail knot. Thats the best way. I use it for floating fly line too.

http://www.fishdoctorcharters.com/templ ... ctor=video

Other good vids there too

[Justin]

The only reason I wanted the backer was to protect the spool on my Okuma 30DX any other ideas or just spool it up and forget about it?

[Chromeslayer]

The only reason I wanted the backer was to protect the spool on my Okuma 30DX any other ideas or just spool it up and forget about it?

few wraps of electricle tape

[Justin]

ok thank you

[horsehunter]

Are you guys talking stranded or solid wire?

I mostly cast for muskies but want to do a little trout/salmon this year.

Thanks Frank

[Tim Bromund]

Frank,

we're talking about 7 strand wire, not monel.

Tim