Stackers

[bluewater]

I was wondering how well the stacker releases work for riggers, and what is the correct way to set them up? How do you prevent the two lines from getting tangled? Here is a link for the type of release I am talking about I couldn't figure out how to post a pic of it.

http://www.offshoretackle.com/OR2.html

[tree top flyer]

there are some good older posts on this, try under cheaters

[Don Supon]

Use them a lot. Set one line at ball release first. Lower weight desired distance with rod in free spool with clicker on(10-15FT), then attach stacker release to cable. Do this by pinching one clip to cable, attach metal snap to cable below first clip, let out desired line from second rod, attach second line to other clip on stacker, set this rod to free spool and clicker, then lower ball to desired fishing depth with slight thumb pressure on each rod to prevent over-run. At desired fishing depth engage both fishing reels and adjust line for desired rod tension. All of this is done while boat is moving slowly, as this prevents lines fron tangling. With both rods set up you can increase speed to fishing speed. You now have two lures running off one rigger at your desired distance apart (10-15 FT). Lines won't tangle as long as you keep the boat moving. When raising ball to surface, the stacker release should disengage from cable when clip hits downrigger pulley (or you release it yourself) and the matal snap slides down the cable to the ball, keeping the release attached.

Cheaters (sliders) are different. This allows two lures to run from one rod, but you can't control the depth of the cheater as accurately. We tie a swivel to each end of 4-5 FT mono material. Lure on one end and other end around main fishing line. Set and lower rod to desired depth leaving a bend in fishing line from rod to ball. Attach slider set-up to fishing line by placing swivel of cheater around fishing line. When tossed into the water, this lure will slide down the main line until it reaches the apex of the curved fishing line. If a fish takes this lure, it will release the bottom clip and the swivel slides down to the bottom lure as if you were fighting the fish from there. Because of the slack line involved in this set-up, you have to reel in quickly until you feel the fish if this rod goes off. Don't try to run two cheaters from one line or a cheater on each of two rods on the same downrigger or they will likely tangle.

Both are effective methods.

[Trolling82]

I use the stacker as well. Same way as Don Supon. Love em.

[bluewater]

Ok I understand now, so the purpose of the second pinch clip is to hold it on to the cable so it don't slip down right. That makes a lot of sense. I was thinking that you run two lines off that type of release. Thank you.

[711skwerlz]

Does any body run sliders over spinnys. always scared they would get twisted up.

[Justin]

711 we did sat with no problems. I always thought they would too Im thinking next time running fixed cheaters for those high marks

[skipper19]

No sliders over spineys..if the slider goes down the main line due to if a fish grabs it or just come unbuttoned..its going to go down the main line and engage the spiney at the swivel and then a major FUBAR is gonna happen. You can stack a rod above the spiney so it's by itself on disengage from the stacker release, but a slider will definitely be a BIG problem since a slider is using the same main line of the rod with the spiney.

Mark

[ray koziatek]

kinda what mark said if yer gonna do it and a fish hits the spinny just have another leader and pole ready cause 95% of the time the knife will come out to clear mess....and if yer gonna change up rig (spinny or lure) dont release it till you get stuff to surface with rigger so it dont get wraped up reeling in from depth.....surprisingly if a fish hits the slider (cheater is a secret setup) quite often you wont have a mess due to the fish pullin away from that spinny chasing it......

[711skwerlz]

I thought it would cause problems thats why i asked before I tried it. Thanks