wire diver set up

[dremarquis]

I am transitioning from finglerlake trollling to Lake O. I was using Okuma magda 20Dxs on the flx with no problem (and running size 0 divers)

the okumas aren't working well with the #1 divers and it looks like my "diver" rods are gonna break (i am not currently running wire).

i want to get properly set up with wire and a good reel.

I know some folks use the diawa sealine 47 series. what are your opinions about that reel or others? is that reel big enough to hold 1000' 30 lb. wire?

it sounds like the heartland or ugly sticks are used by many. any opinons/adivce on those.

thanks a bunch,

andre

[Billy V]

Yes, the Daiwa SG47LCA will hold 1000' of 30# wire. It fits on there perfectly. that's what I run for my wire reels, and I put that on a Daiwa Heartland Dipsy rod. Works beautifully for me.

[dremarquis]

thanks Bill.

I jsut went on the cabela's site and didn't see more than 450 feet of malin wire. I think i read mention on this forum of 1000 feet.

Will i be fine with 450 feet of wire plus about 500 feet of backing?

thanks,

dre

[Billy V]

You're really gonna want to buy a 1000' section of 30# 7 strand stainless and spool that up. You can find 1000' for a good price here: http://www.howiestackle.com/index.php?categoryID=8

I've been thinking about buying the 10,000 ft. spool so I have it on hand at all times.

Bill

[MANIAC]

That's the way to do it. Save a bunch in the long run with the 10,000'.

[Big Dave]

Just make sure to get it on tight or you will have trouble. After I tied it on the spool I taped it with the renforced packing tape to keep it from spinning on the spool. 1000' fits on the greatlakes lc 47 and the sg47 just fine.

[Big Dave]

The #1 dipsie and the 30# wire work great on the fingerlakes too!!

[dremarquis]

thanks a bunch everyone! I'm gonna order the malin 7 strand 1000' now!

dre

[akitaone]

How much backing do you guys put on before the copper if any?and if so ,will 30lb fireline work for that?and if so how much should i put on.when you guys say wire dose it matter with stainless or copper

[akitaone]

how much backing do you guys put on before the copper?and if so ,will 30lb fireline work for that?and if so how much should i put on.

[Dance the Tides]

Akitaone,

When someone says "wire" they are usually talking about the braided stainless as described above. A "wire dipsey rig" is typically a Diawa 47LC reel or equivalent with 1000 ft of stainless wire, no backing. "Copper" refers to copper trolling line which is typically not used with a dipsey. Copper line is heavy stuff which will take a lure down by itself. A copper rig needs backing, often Fireline, Power Pro or equal.

[akitaone]

thanks guys ill give it a try and let you know

[muskybob]

I use about 2 wraps of black electrical tape around the arbor before I spool the wire to keep it from slipping. Also, make sure you wrap the wire REAL TIGHT.

[GAMBLER]

akitaone,

I would go with 50 lb. on the power pro for backing with copper. A large king and all that weight in copper will put a lot of stretch on the 30 lb. backing.

[chugbug]

Guys !! , why 1000 ft of wire ?? , isn't that really over-kill ?? I no some of you are running out up to 250' when setting up but if you had say 550' total you would still have 300' for him to play with .

[capt ace]

With a big king it won't be enough, he'll spool you.

[chugbug]

Jim I guess that's what drives me to catch my first king , its hard to imagine that kind of power !! that they could spool me with 500 ft. of line !!! What size fish would it take to really take alot of line like that ?? 30 pound and up ?? I still can't believe it !! That must be a thrill !!! One of these days !! I was thrilled with the 11 pound coho but a little disappointed with the fight , I was hoping I had a king on .

[big_fishman]

1000ft fits perfectly.

I run 1000ft sinc eI really did not feel like splicing the two together.

[Tim Bromund]

chugbug,

we had a wire diver bite while prefishing for the Fairhaven Challenge a couple of weeks ago that had the counter over 700 feet on it's first run and still going strong when unfortunately the fish came undone.

Besides, like the others said, 1000 ft fills the reel perfectly and you don't have to worry about additional knots in the system to fail (at backing).

Tim

[chugbug]

Tim , That must have been a huge king !!!My problem is I'm using Daiwa's SG27LCA reels , not sure how much I can get on them , I really like there size especially for the finger lakes ! Anyone have any way of figuring how much wire the 27 will hold ?? I thought I would go with the 20 LB so I could get more on .

[capt ace]

Chug, you will be able to fit 1000ft of 20lb wire on that 27lc. However, running 20lb wire comes with it's own set of conditions that have to be met so you don't find yourself breaking off expensive tackle. I would suggest going to a sg47lc size reel and using 30lb wire to start. It would cost you a lot less in the long run .

I had a 32lb 6oz king run all my 20lb wire almost to the backing before he stopped running. We did get him in. My man was not in the derby! OUCH! Here's a pic.

[chugbug]

Alright Jimmy thanks , I'll see what I can afford , wish I could get away with these but maybe I can do some horse-trading !!!

[big_fishman]

One wire to check is the opti 30lb, the package says it is th esame diameter as 20lb.

[chugbug]

Did a search for opti ,the only thing that I can find is opti copper line , Do they make a 7 strand soft wire like Malin ?? Thanks

[big_fishman]

Yes, check the opti web site, I am not an advocate of gander but they do carry the opti 30lb wire line now.