Fish ID Help

[Big Dave]

My son caught this near UB in Buffalo . What the heck is it???

[tcon]

I don't know but what ever is coming out of its hind end is definiately going to kill the grass

Tom

[Ronix 51]

Thats a Rud, its an invasive cyprinide from europe. theyre a pretty big concern for fish restoration and fish spawning in the niagara/lake erie system

[rolmops]

Scardinius erythrophthalmus

That's the Latin name. Sorry but I don't know what it is called in English. It is a member of the carp family.

I used to catch them in Holland when I was a kid.

[Big Dave]

Thanks I knew it wasn't one of the local guys I thought maybe someone dumped their fishtank!

[ray koziatek]

ahh the oll " Giantgoldpoopfish" yup that tiny dropping outa his butt is nuttin ive seen a 3ftr drop 15 lbs at a time..not a good fish for the cooler..

[smf24]

How big was it? My daughter had something similar on in the Erie canal but lost it before we could pull it out to get a closer look. That one was maybe 10"

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[Big Dave]

He says about 10" . He is a student out there and does catch and release, so he throws everything back.

[BSmaster]

I caught one (Conesus) last year fishing for Gills. It looked like a golden shiner on steroids. I asked the fisheries for id help because I knew it wasn't a carp and I couldn't imagine a 2lb shiner (?). There response was Rudd and gave me a website for State agency in the midwest where they explained the background. I don't have that info anymore but basically it is identical to the golden shiner except for something like 17 (golden) 18 (rud) dorsal spines (numbers may be wrong). Invasive yes, but the reason they were put here is probably by bait fisherman. There slang name is Alabama Shiner. They are suppose to be plant eaters, but I caught mine on a beatle spin which reminds me - I watched an episode of Monsterfish where in NewZealand they stocked a fish that ate nuts in the Amazon and now it is a predator in its new ecosystem. I found it interesting because when it bit flesh it looked like a humans bite mark. To my knowledge, the DEC hasn't said to euthenize them (Rudd), but from now on, I will be giving them the goby treatment.

[ifishy]

That's got pike bait written all over it

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