Current state of the Egg take at the Salmon River hatchery

[GAMBLER]

ok, more than just rainbows, though they are more susceptible,

here's a pretty thorough research paper on VHS. Check out section 2.4 on Control and prevention in particular.

Paragraph 2.4.6 has this to say:

2.4.6. Disinfection of eggs and larvae

Disinfection of eyed and green eggs is an efficient and cost-effective preventative measure for stopping

the spread of the disease (for detailed procedures see ref. 5).

here's the link to the entire paper

http://www.oie.int/fileadmin/Home/eng/H ... 09.VHS.pdf

Tim

I believe it was Mike Waterhouse that mentioned this at the state of the lake meetings a couple years ago and the DEC ignored him. Matt is right on this one. It is all about the $. Complete BS. They should have taken the money they used to by the fin clipping/marking trailer and put some of it into the budget for raising kings at Caledonia.

[Yankee Troller]

We can **** all we want on a chat forum, but what is needed is for us fisherman up and down the lake to band together on this one. I mean if a group of kayakers can lobby for water releases on the Salmon River during Summer why can't us fisherman band together to get something going that actually shows a ROI to the communities?

It's been discussed multiple times at the Genesee Charter Boat Association (GCBA) meetings as well as the State of the Lake meetings. The GCBA is trying to get the biologist in for a meeting soon. We don't want it to be an open forum, but rather have questions submitted to the GCBA board and then a few selected questions asked as to not bombard them with questions and comments coming from everyone.

So, what I'm saying is....if you can voice your opinion on here it would be nice if we could show some serious support at a meeting where the people who need to hear this will be listening. If they don't/can't do anything about it then we can go above them until we get the answers we need.

[Gill-T]

Brian, next time you talk to your contacts at Altmar ask them if there has been any thought about tweaking the run dates for Kings to compensate for the apparent lack of tributary water in September. Since Kings in Alaska run in June and we have a September run.....someone engineered the development of the great lakes fish run later. Perhaps we could alter the run later into the fall when stream conditions and temps are better. Not sure of the process whether they are able to hold eggs viable for any length of time before fertilizing? Maybe pulling eggs from late-run fish only? Catch and release for Kings after October 15th? Just some thoughts.

[jimski2]

Caledonia is now used to raise two year old bown trout that are stocked statewide and have greatly enhanced the trout stream stocking program with its success.

[spoonfed-1]

Thanks for the information Brian.

Hope you guys are well and have a great winter.

Glen

[Tim Bromund]

Brian, next time you talk to your contacts at Altmar ask them if there has been any thought about tweaking the run dates for Kings to compensate for the apparent lack of tributary water in September. Since Kings in Alaska run in June and we have a September run.....someone engineered the development of the great lakes fish run later. Perhaps we could alter the run later into the fall when stream conditions and temps are better. Not sure of the process whether they are able to hold eggs viable for any length of time before fertilizing? Maybe pulling eggs from late-run fish only? Catch and release for Kings after October 15th? Just some thoughts.

Chad, no one engineered the run time, that is when the Tule strain of Kings is genetically wired to run. They are a river mouth/short river running strain that stay out in the ocean/lake as long as possible eating before they run. The Kenai River Strain is genetically wired to run in June because they have almost 1000 miles of river to travel to reach the spawning gravel. The Tule strain was selected for the Great lakes BECAUSE of those characteristics. Remember, they initially introduced salmon in the great lakes to eat alewives and they wanted a strain that would stay in the lakes eating as long as possible, couple that with the fact that a long Great Lakes tributary is 30 miles, so the Tule's were tailor made for what the Biologists were trying to accomplish. Didn't make sense to select a strain that ran in June because they had a long river travel ahead of them, because they wouldn't be out in the lake eating alewives.

The fact that a multi-billion dollar sport fishery developed out of it was just a side benefit, they were stocked to eat as many alewives as they could for as long as possible.

Tim