Why is my line eating up my slide divers?

[Mortigan]

it does sound impossible.  it must be slipping (which still means the mono is biting into it) because I didn't take a fish on that diver the last trip when the ring came back sliced.

 

Here's your problem, right here:

[madsierra]

Hey brokeoff, I have run slidedivers for years and never had that happin to any of mine, if i had to "guess" i would say it is sliding down all the way to your spoon and between the action of the spoon being right near the diver and the movement of the diver it is doing the damage. It is hard to tell from the picture of your green slidediver how you have your surgical tube but, I talked to a guy from the company a few years back @ a outdoor show and he told me if I was running braid on them and they were slipping to try turning the piece of surgical tube that your line runs through sideways before locking it down and it would stop it...maybe for some reason this is happing to you even though you are running mono...good luck.

Edited July 22, 2014 by madsierra

[LongLine]

You have one of these two conditions happening:

It doesn't have to slip/slide.  Vibration alone will do the cutting.

 

Tom B.

(LongLine)

[BrokeOff]

i agree longline.  but why isnt it happening to anyone else who runs them?

 

 It is hard to tell from the picture of your green slidediver how you have your surgical tube

 

i never tried turning the tubing b/c it is just thick mono.  thought it would pinch and hold. also i stopped using the spring on the diver arm after reading another thread where guys said you don't need it when running them on mono, maybe i will go back to using it.

[Big Water]

this was without the ring about a month ago.  was brand new ran for 8 hrs

Just an observation from your pic, but are you turning the weight towards the back of your dipsey?  It should be turned toward the front (towards the boat).

[BrokeOff]

front, but that is a 4 setting so it is angled out pretty good

[bulletny]

BrokeOff,I think the bottom picture of longline is your problem. It seems maybe your new weight you changed to is too heavy and making the diver stand vertical in water pulling line across edge of diver. Sure you have same size diver as others? I take it your using #1 size diver & is the spring the line goes through long enough to get correct bend to pull diver at correct angle. Hope this helps.

[Big Water]

Brokeoff,

 

No offense intended, but which side of this pic is the line going to your rod?  The bottom left or the top right?

[BrokeOff]

bottom left

[BrokeOff]

BrokeOff,I think the bottom picture of longline is your problem. It seems maybe your new weight you changed to is too heavy and making the diver stand vertical in water pulling line across edge of diver. Sure you have same size diver as others? I take it your using #1 size diver & is the spring the line goes through long enough to get correct bend to pull diver at correct angle. Hope this helps.

first picture i posted where the diver is really grooved is right out of the package.  a size 1 no alterations run for one day of trolling.

Edited July 23, 2014 by BrokeOff

[BrokeOff]

i will repost this pic, the line goes thru the diver arm (rod side) and exits the diver out the back where the bead and snap swivel are (lure side).  the lure side is where the grooves are happening.

[Steelman]

Did you take the light bite arms off?  These arms hold the line up and off the tail edge of your divers stopping the line from eating into the divers.  Take a look at this link.  http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CE4QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slidediver.com%2Fimg%2FSlideDiver.pdf&ei=8ijPU8CnGs-wyATHs4D4BQ&usg=AFQjCNE9mFwQyS3EoiGhM0w5IaaYOfUCRQ&sig2=8p8rzYuLrPsQZtG-HElQDg

[BrokeOff]

i did not take the light bite arms off.  they are regular slide divers not lite bite slide divers.  the way kings hit i did not feel the extra $8 a peice was necessary for the lite bite version.  i can't remember a time i dragged a fish on a diver.  rigger or copper sure but not a diver.  but if i had the lite bites i probably would not have this problem

[mr 580]

In the picture of the green diver I don't see the spring the mono is supposed to go through and attach to release arm with a piece of surgical tubing. My guess is running the diver without that piece is changing the angle and causing your problem. I run both the regular slide divers and lite bites without any issues. If you use braid a solid piece of tubing is to be used instead of the spring that is used with mono. Add that spring and you should be good to go.

[BrokeOff]

i will go back to using the spring.  the reason i stopped using the spring was the diver would hang up on the line and not slide all the way to the bead during retrieval. but that is better than having ruined slide divers

[Shelby Lynn]

I run a lite bite diver on 30# big game without the spring or the light bite arm with no issues, with that being said I usually run it on the 2 or 2.5 setting. I have no idea what is happening to Broke Off

[BrokeOff]

my plan was to use them all year, when the fleas show up (now) start using them on wire but keeping the mono leader for them to slide on.  having to many problems now going to stick with regular and mag dipsys

[Sk8man]

My hunch is that the problem may lie in the 4 oz. weight you put in it too much for it turning it on a severe angle

[ray koziatek]

Try changing yer boat name,or LOU name...that don't sound to positive..I used to run slider on 65lb PP 180 out and 100 back (big steelhead rig)never had any issue..8ft mono leader...

[J.D.]

My brain must be wired differently........ i would have already sent the pics  to U Charters, the people who make Slide Divers and got an answer from them. ...As a side note, Ive been running wire Slide Divers, with a 15' mono leader for years and have never seen this, even running the new 7oz. magnum weight kits.

[BrokeOff]

Yep emailed them last month when the first diver got destroyed and they sent me a new one right away.  Great customer service.  said they'd never seen this before.  Then I tried last week with the diver they sent using a ring I had and same thing happen.  I didn't email again thats when I posted here, thought someone else would have the same kind of story but not looking like it.

 

J.D. on your wire slide divers, what setting do you use? and do you use the spring?

[J.D.]

BrokeOff, I run on every setting except 0, and I do use the spring. I will tell you the mag diver weights on a low setting dig in at a steep angle, but I don't see the wear prodlems you do........

 

( running out to boat.... checking mag diver rings before clicking on the post button..... rings look good....... click Post button now...)

Edited July 24, 2014 by J.D.

[Has Been]

Set it ,  spit on the line ,grab the diver & see if it slips. Looks like it is slipping to me by the groves. Plumbers cut pipe in awkward spots w/ a piece of chalkline like a 2 ring wire saw and it works great. Braid has to  cut  even better. We have to use special knots for braid because the waxy lube the put on it make regular knots slip .

 

 I use a 40 or so piece of mono & set my slider at the knot.

[BrokeOff]

I use a 40 or so piece of mono & set my slider at the knot.

this is what i have always done

[BrokeOff]

here's an update:

 

used slide diver with a new ring on sunday (old one eaten by line).  slightly better results using the spring and 40# mono.  this time on a 2 setting.  still getting grooves though.....

 

the grooves are far away from where the line exits the diver.  i dont think these are from slippage.  im pretty sure they happened when the diver tripped and slid down the line.  i ran 8" flashers behind the slide diver.