Help with Wire Dispy

[jigstick]

This is probably a basic question, but I have never had to deal with it myself.  I snapped off a #1 dipsy yesterday. Lost everything from the wire back.  I need to crimp on a new connector to my 7 strand line.  What type of connector do I use?  What size?  I keep seeing to use a "clevis" but don't know what that is.  And I have heard to use a 100# SPRO ball bearing swivel.  I understand how to crimp it all together, but don't know exactly what connectors to use.  Any help?

[TileMan Dan]

I use a #3 spro coastlock snap with a crimp sleeve for the wire.

[jekyll]

Crimp not needed. Double the line on itself and tie an overhand knot, making a loop an inch or two big. Attach a large snap swivel to the loop and you are done.

 

Snog down the knot, clip the tag end.

[jigstick]

I use a #3 spro coastlock snap with a crimp sleeve for the wire.

With the ball bearing swivel?  or the power swivel?  They look just a tad bit different.  What size crimps?  The Mason 7strand wire I have has a diameter of .015.  The smallest crimps I have are with an internal diameter of .84.  I should be able to crimp it down tight enough right?

 

And another stupid question.  When I bought these rods pre-rigged, they came with a bright green plastic ball about the size of a "pea" that slid down to the crimp, so that you could not accidentally reel the wire too far into the rod it….it fit perfectly inside the twili tip.  where do I find that ball?

Edited August 4, 2014 by jigstick

[TileMan Dan]

should be able to  crimp it down tight enough. Give a few good tugs to make sure they not slipping.

[Tim Bromund]

http://www.lotsa.org/Wire%20Line%20Knot.htm

Edited August 4, 2014 by Tim Bromund

[jigstick]

ok wow.  that knot looks easier, especially to do out on the water.  Any idea on the green plastic bead?  Does it come with the Twili Tip?  I know its not necessary, but it was a nice feature.  It basically would prevent the crimp and swivel from getting caught up in the Twili tip

[John Greenlee]

I cut all crimps off and do what Tim posted. I've had crimps fail but never this knot.

[Tim Bromund]

You can actually tie the overhand knot first,  then just pass the loop through the eye of the swivel and half hitch it around the swivel.  That's even easier to do on the water.  No idea on the bead, they don't come with the twilli tips, probably just a 10mm or 12mm bead like are used to make fly leaders.

[on the lam]

As Tom and Dan said...  overhand loop knot. simple to do. can do the same thing with your rigger wire connections if necessary. I always do it with my power pro rigger cable. never fails.

[G-Daddy]

You can use just about any large bead to keep the swivel out of the twilli.  Also, we keep a lighter on board to heat the wire where we re going to cut it.  Then it cuts without fraying.

[jigstick]

Should I cinch down that overhand knot as close to the swivel ring as possible, or keep a loop in between there?

[moog5050]

Keep a loop on it.

[jigstick]

When it comes to the ball bearing swivel / coast lock snap, is there one brand in particular that is most durable?  Sampo or SPRO?  I am thinking of using a #60lb one.  That should be plenty strong enough for #1 dipsys and king salmon hits correct?

[Sk8man]

#6 (80 lb test) SPRO swivel with #5 duo lock snap at the terminus and a #8 (50lbtest) for inline connection.

[TileMan Dan]

I am a fan of Spro. Pricey but have yet to have a failure.

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[jekyll]

I don't spend money on top-shelf swivels for this application. Dipsies don't spin.

[Big Dave]

solid ring , not a split ring on the swivel.  The knot Tim posted is right on.

[Shelby Lynn]

Same knot as above, but I use two beads with a 3" piece of surgical tubing in between. Keeps the wire nice and tight for storage when you reel it up tight to the twilly tip.

[abc715]

Dreamweaver makes nice swivel clips that work great for dipseys. Also a drop of epoxy or super glue on the knot, works good to keep knot from loosening up.

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[jigstick]

so i was king fishing this weekend.  Had my dipsy rod back up in action, using a Sampo 60lb swivel with coast lock snap.  I used the knot mentioned above.  Went to pop the dipsy in order to reset at a different depth, and the wire SNAPPED.  Lost my brand new dipsy.  I was skeptical of that knot.  I stopped at the Slippery Sinker baitshop by Olcott and had them put on a new swivel.  They used this kit that had some wire sleeves in it, as well as what looked like a brass thimble / horse shoe shaped piece of brass piping.  They threaded on two sleeves, then passed the wire through this "thimble", then into the sleeves and crimped.  Then crimped the tag into the 2nd sleeve.  all covered with shrink tubing.  Seems very solid.  Does anybody know where I can purchase that "thimble" / brass pipe piece?  its shaped like a horse shoe, has a diameter about 1-2mm.  

[tiogafishaddict]

Fingers crossed never had the overhand knot fail.

[abc715]

Had to have a kink in wire. Will do that every time.

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[tinfin]

NO BRAINER- wire line knot!

[Tim Bromund]

I've had that same knot on a wire diver for multiple seasons without retying and never had it break,  Had to be a kink in the wire somewhere.