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Being partial to hardtops I think it is worth looking into. This style seems to utilize it's full 8'4" beam more efficiently than the other Trophy boats that I've seem. If your the type that likes to sleep on the boat then the extra large cabin is a plus, other wise the aft deck could use a little more room but in any case it sure looks like a nice unit. When you taking delivery :) ?

Here is another boat to check out if your into a little more of a utility/fishing boat. It's in the same size class and also has some great potential as a trolling machine.

Can't wait for you to post a picture of your new Trophy.

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MOTOCROSS

If your interested in a hard top, I've got a friend with a nice used one for sale . It comes with a trailer. I can get more info if interested.

Capt. Randy - - Hit or Miss

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MOTOCROSS

If your interested in a hard top, I've got a friend with a nice used one for sale . It comes with a trailer. I can get more info if interested.

Capt. Randy - - Hit or Miss

I'm window shopping for a used 22 footer but I'd consider a 23'. If you can email the particulars I'd appreciate it. My druthers are an outboard but if the price is right ;)

muskybob at gmail.com

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Motocross - For what it's worth to you, my brother has an '03 (I think) 2352 w/the factory hardtop and Pro Package. It is a great boat to fish from and has handled some pretty rough seas, mechanically no problems.

I have an '01 Trophy 17' dual console (prior to the Bayliner/Trophy split) that I really like. I fish Cayuga L. and occasionally Lake O. in the spring with it and it fishes much better than I expected for a 17 footer.

The Trophy line took a lot of hits before the split from Bayliner but I've been nothing but impressed w/both boats. When I trade up for a bigger boat I'll probably stick with a Trophy.

DAN

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I have a 2359 bought it new in 1993, has been a great boat,

no real issues with the boat. has a drop curtin vice the enclosure,sleeps

4 (friends) 3 not so friendly. donT really like the new models for

space but a solid boat. like the green though. john :D

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I have a 2359 bought it new in 1993, has been a great boat,

no real issues with the boat. has a drop curtin vice the enclosure,sleeps

4 (friends) 3 not so friendly. donT really like the new models for

space but a solid boat. like the green though. john :D

what do you think they go for new?

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Well i used to knock Trophys untill i got one.I have the 22' hartop with the real hardtop and glass windows,and have to say that it's been a great boat for me.

It's powered by a 230hp 305 Gm I.O. which gets me up to a cruise speed of around 30mph at 3000 rpm.Top speed is around 40mph,but i NEVER run it there.

I troll with a 9.9 Yamaha four stroke and it pushes the boat fine in all but the nastiest days.if it's blowing hard,i'll throw out the bags and troll with the outdrive.

I've been out in some snotty water,and this boat handles it amazingly well,it does everything i ask it to,it's a little cramped in the fishing area,and the hardtop can be a head banger,but overall i'm very happy with it.

That 2359 Trophy is a very nice rig,don't be afraid to give it a serious look.Just make sure you get it with a big enough engine,lots of guys with the older ones have a hard time getting up on plane with the small engines.After having my Trophy for several years,i would have no problem buying another especially the 2359.

Having said all the above ,i'm going to be selling mine this fall,as i'm in the process of restoring a 24' SeaCraft,that i'll be using on lake Ontario next year.I also have a 18' starcraft alum that i'm going to sell.Three boats is too many for me to keep afloat. :)

Looks like i'll have to change my signoff line.

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Hank,it's a 1974 Tsunami which is the same as the scepter,It's a 23.3 footer that had a 351 ford IO in it.I'm doing a complete restore,and have already ripped out all the wood out of the transom,it was all rotted.I'm going through every item on this boat.

I'll be replacing the transom with marine ply and will be glassing that in with a several layers of 1708 stichmat.

I have to do tons of stuff,to get this where i want it such as new fuel tank,new controlls,all switchs electrical etc,all new winshield weatherstrip,recore and reglass all the hatches,new seating,a soft top or hard top,and on and on.

I'm planning on installing a 350 300hp GM Mercruiser with a Bravo drive,maybe fabricating a hardtop for the rod holders and radar,gps ant.etc.

These potter built hulls were awesome roughwater hulls,and to this day are considered one of the best hulls ever built.Not many great lake guys are familiar with them,but are very well known in salt water circles.

It's nice to see that someone knows about them.

I bought this from a friend up in Olcott,and the last time it was used was in the Pro-Am,back in 2003,since then ,it sat in a field.

Here's a before picture,when i'm done next year i'll post the after picture.Thanks for your intrest.

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Well i used to knock Trophys untill i got one.I have the 22' hartop with the real hardtop and glass windows,and have to say that it's been a great boat for me.

It's powered by a 230hp 305 Gm I.O. which gets me up to a cruise speed of around 30mph at 3000 rpm.Top speed is around 40mph,but i NEVER run it there.

I troll with a 9.9 Yamaha four stroke and it pushes the boat fine in all but the nastiest days.if it's blowing hard,i'll throw out the bags and troll with the outdrive.

I've been out in some snotty water,and this boat handles it amazingly well,it does everything i ask it to,it's a little cramped in the fishing area,and the hardtop can be a head banger,but overall i'm very happy with it.

That 2359 Trophy is a very nice rig,don't be afraid to give it a serious look.Just make sure you get it with a big enough engine,lots of guys with the older ones have a hard time getting up on plane with the small engines.After having my Trophy for several years,i would have no problem buying another especially the 2359.

Having said all the above ,i'm going to be selling mine this fall,as i'm in the process of restoring a 24' SeaCraft,that i'll be using on lake Ontario next year.I also have a 18' starcraft alum that i'm going to sell.Three boats is too many for me to keep afloat. :)

Looks like i'll have to change my signoff line.

i remember hearing stories that the hulls would crack when lifted out of the water...but i guess those days are over and they make a pretty good boat...I have to check one out..i really need to see how they sit in the water...that is very important to me......

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Easy: I thought it might be an older one. You don't have to say alot about the design or hull they are a top of the line boat. There weren't alot of i/o's made, most were o/b. I ran a 23 scepter for inshore trips off the coast in Delaware (well a lot to the canyon's too :) back in the early 80's and brought it back home (here) and ran trips for 2 years with it. It was an o/b with twin 90's on it. Sold it and the boat is still in the area.

Good choice to go with the 350. As you said it had a ford as were most of the i/o's that were built then. Good luck on the restore. It'll be a great boat. Cant say enough about the hull and design. P.S. Can I get a ride in 4ta 5 ft'er's or so on plane when ya get it done? It will take it like a piece a cake. Seeing those pictures bring's back a lot of memories.

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YOU got it HANK, I'll keep it at Olcott(when it's done)your welcome aboard anytime.I,d also like to pick you brain about these boats,if thats ok.I've never rode in one in rough water,but everyone says,as you mentioned,that they love a big rough sea.I hope thats as true as i hear.

Also, for MOTOCROSS, on the Trophy, what exactly are you referring to as how it sits in the water? Do you mean at rest,or troll,or under power?Mine rides and sits fine under all thes conditions.

I also don't buy all this crap about Trophys breaking in half,or splitting in two.i'd like to see pics of all those disasters.

They're a lower priced boat,and they don't have all the bells and whistles,and they may use stamped stainless instead of cast for some things or polyethelyne instead of fiberglass in some compartments,but it doesn't affect the structure of the boat.

You can have as much fun,and catch as many fish,in a Trophy as someone in a hundred thousand dollar Tiara.Just think how much tackle you can buy with the savings.

I have some pics of mine in the water,if you want i can foward them to you if it would help.

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You got it hank,i keep it at Olcott(when it's done)your welcome aboard anytime.I,d also like to pick you brain about these boats,if thats ok.I've never rode in one in rough water,but everyone says,as you mentioned,that they love a big rough sea.I hope thats as true as i hear.

There right, with common sense. Great hull & boat. You will be pleased with it.

Need to pick or need some thing let me kn not a problem. Sparked a fire when I heard SeaCraft :)

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over the years ive seen boats with sterns built for i/o with a o/b hanging off what resembles a kicker bracket , actually there are many boats like that on the hudson river. ...Hank what are the pros and cons of these rigs ?.. it would be sorta sweet not to have a doghouse to work around on my shallow draft boat. and just in case any diehard fishermen read this site how bout a approx cost range for this bracket? Thanks.

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Hey Ray,

Lots of guys convert these IO. SeaCrafts, and other boats to outboards,but it's a very expensive retrofit.You need to do some interior glass work to reinforce the transom,for the extra weight hanging off the back.

The cost of the brackets from companies like Armstrong isn't cheap,it's a major expense,not to mention the cost of a new outboard engine.Depending on engine size you may have to shell out somewhere in the neighborhood of fifteen or twenty grand, or even more for bracket and engine.

As for the dog house being in the way,i don't have a big problem with it.

I've had IO.s and outboards,and each has their own set of problems.

Yeah the outboards are nice because of the open floor plan,but trying to net a big king,thats out around the bracket, with that giant hand grenade hanging way off the back aint easy.

One of the primary reasons for doing these conversions, is a corrosion problem with IO.s in saltwater,because you can't tilt them up completely out of the water like an outboard.

Check out www.classicseacraft.com or www.classicmako.com for some ideas on these conversions. :)

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