600 copper reel

[BAZOOKAJOE]

Will a Okuma Clarion 553 fit 600 ft of 45 lbs copper with 150 yds of power pro? Also, is the line guide big enough for an SPRO swivel?

Edited December 29, 2014 by BAZOOKAJOE

[Legacy]

Will a Okuma Clarion 553 fit 600 ft of 45 lbs copper with 150 yds of power pro? Also, is the line guide big enough for an SPRO swivel?

 

no it wont. You will need a Okuma Solterra for that

[Silver Fox]

I get almost 400' on mine. I would never put only 150yds of backing on. You'll get spooled. You lose at least 100' putting on the planer board. Only my opinion.

[Legacy]

Maybe this will help

 

Okuma Clarion 553=

500' of 45# copper and 90' of 50# braid backing

450' of 45# copper and 300' of 50# braid backing

400' of 45# copper and 500' of 50# braid backing

350' of 45# copper and 600' of 50# braid backing

300' of 45# copper and 600-800' of 50# braid backing

 

 

Okuma Solterra=

500' of 45# copper and 1000' of 50# braid backing

600' of 45# copper and 700' of 50# braid backing

700' of 45# copper and 400' of 50# braid backing

800' of 45# copper and 90' of 50# braid backing

[BAZOOKAJOE]

Hmmm. It shows more mono capacity than a Tekota 800. And I have 150 yds power pro and 500 copper on a Tekota.

[BAZOOKAJOE]

I def don't want a Solterra. Too big, heavy and slow. Maybe I'll do 600 of 32 lbs on a Seagate. Or I might try the 60 size Penn Squall without a linewinder.

[Silver Fox]

Isn't the solterra 6.0-1 ratio?

[BAZOOKAJOE]

The big one is 3.something to one...

[BAZOOKAJOE]

According to skipper19's mathematical formula: 600 ft of 32 lbs will fit with 300 yds of 50 lbs pp. 700 ft with 150 yds of pp.

[skipper19]

Yes the Seagate 60 will fit 600 feet of 32 lb and 900 feet of 30lb powerpro with a 30 foot wind on leader. I have that one and a 400 45 lb. Both reels are nice and full with 900 feet backing .

[flashpoint]

I guess my question is the real need for 600 cp...

I run 300's, 400's & 500's. ....for those couple days a year the fish are below what I can reach with a 500 I add 8 Oz dive bombs or torpedos & still get hits. Sucks reeling in 500..... Hate any more! Just my $.02....

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[BAZOOKAJOE]

At the end of last summer my 500 was doing work. While the 300 on the other side rotted. We tried some dive bombs. But the fish were down 90-115. And it just couldn't get deep enough.

[BAZOOKAJOE]

With high speed reels they are a piece of cake!

[Paul Czarnecki]

Blood run makes a 60# copper that will reach any depth (and more) that 45 can. And with less line out. Just sayin.

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[John E Powell]

Paul,

 

Volume wise (with respect to reel capacity), there's no real depth advantage to the 60lb copper over longer lengths of 45 or 32.

 

What many people don't consider though is that at any given desired depth, you need less line out with heavier 60lb copper (compared to 45 or 32) which correlates directly to less cranks of the reel, which is the complaint most people express.

 

A reel with a high speed retrieve (and less torque) pulling in a longer length of lighter copper can actually be more work than using a reel with a standard retrieve (and more torque) pulling in a shorter length of heavier copper.

 

Based solely on studying the Blood Run depth charts and plugging the depth and diameter info into a spreadsheet to calculate the volumetric efficiency and retrieve per crank of some typical copper reels, one could make a case for getting the best of all worlds by using the 32 for shorter length up to 200-250ft and 60lb for all deeper depths. The more common 45 doesn't perform with the same volumetric efficiency as the lighter and heavier coppers.

Edited June 23, 2015 by John E Powell

[BAZOOKAJOE]

I guess we all have differences in opinion. I (personally) would rather crank the handle a few more times on a lighter high speed reel. The high speed reel also helps pick up the slack line fast on the initial hit. Versus winching in a fish slowly on a heavy Solterra with line as thick as telephone wire. Also, isn't 60 lbs copper too big for SPRO swivels...so you have to rely on Albright knots? No thanks. Just the way I see it.

[Paul Czarnecki]

I guess we all have differences in opinion. I (personally) would rather crank the handle a few more times on a lighter high speed reel. The high speed reel also helps pick up the slack line fast on the initial hit. Versus winching in a fish slowly on a heavy Solterra with line as thick as telephone wire. Also, isn't 60 lbs copper too big for SPRO swivels...so you have to rely on Albright knots? No thanks. Just the way I see it.

60# copper works fine with spro swivels.

Btw there is nothing sporting about ANY of the coppers or lead cores. They are fish killing devices--nothing more. Saying you want more "sport" from your copper is like riding an elevator for exercise.

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[BAZOOKAJOE]

Lol. Good one!! You never know, some days the junk lines are the hot ticket.

[skipper19]

Copper weight 5.2 ounces per cubic inch

7.84 cubic inches for 600 feet of 45 lb wire

40.8 ounces or 2.55 pounds on the reel.

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:wub: attack!