Fly Trebles?

Miss em · February 2, 2015

For some reason the link to the Fish Doctor video gets cut short. The single hook gets snelled just like the treble. If you can watch the Quicktime version of the video, it is the full length that shows how to snell both hooks.

Nautitroller · February 2, 2015

Well done! where do you get the clear shrink tube and rattles? Bass- pro?

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Sk8man · February 2, 2015

Just curious....was the blow up doll under the table while you were demonstrating? :lol: It would also be nice to see that balloon knot

Yankee Troller · February 2, 2015

Well done! where do you get the clear shrink tube and rattles? Bass- pro?

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I get most of my supplies from A-TOM-MIK.

JakeyBaby · February 3, 2015

Seems like most people run 50lb floro. Is it really needed with all the action going on with the paddle and fly? I ask because I am just running 50lb Big Game.

Iceman · February 3, 2015

Seems like most people run 50lb floro. Is it really needed with all the action going on with the paddle and fly? I ask because I am just running 50lb Big Game.

Jake;

IMHO, I use the flouro because it is stiffer, & because of that gives a better roll to the fly.

John

Silver Fox · February 3, 2015

Stiffer the better Matt!!!!!!!

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Tim Bromund · February 3, 2015

I actually switched from 50 lb fluoro to Big Game quite a few years ago and like it better. I've seen no drop off in bites with the Big Game and I think it is a bit more forgiving on some of those savage strikes due to its stretchiness.

Tim

Paul Czarnecki · February 3, 2015

50# ande is almost as stiff as most Fluoro.

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Sk8man · February 3, 2015

I'm with Tim on the 50 lb Big Game.....no problems with it and no break offs as I had with commercially tied flies with fluoro. My thinking is that a tiny bit of stretch is beneficial to absorb "shock" from kings (I don't use snubbers) and I also feel that the knot strength is better on mono after using both. Yes the fluoro is stiffer but it also is brittle and especially so in colder temps.

Silver Fox · February 3, 2015

"Knot" for nothing, lol, but if you think a 22" piece of mono is gonna save the day or have any effect for violent king hits, you may want to get some snubbers. Now, you could maybe convince me that a 10' piece of mono from the diver to the flasher may have some stretch that "might" help.

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Sk8man · February 3, 2015

If you'll notice I said "tiny bit" of stretch (vs. none whatsoever with fluoro) and it can (and often does) "snap" right at the knot (regardless of the knot used) because of the brittle nature of the material and the hard coating on its exterior that "cuts through" itself when pulled under high instantaneous tension. It is just an opinion (not science) but it is based on my own experiences with both materials so I thought it worth mentioning. Honest I don't have any stock in Berkely Big Game or anything . I do use fluoro for many other things but not for flies or meat rigs

Edited February 3, 2015 by Sk8man

Tim Bromund · February 3, 2015

I guess my point really was that since it has absolutely no discernible advantage in action, strength or reliability, spending the extra money on fluoro for your leaders is pointless, since the big cheap spool of big game that will last you 10 lifetimes works just as good.

BrokeOff · February 4, 2015

i was told flouro is superior and the whip wouldnt be the same with mono

Sk8man · February 4, 2015

Aggressive whip action of the fly is fine for actively aggressive feeding fish but have you ever watched some of the videos here and on Youtube where the fish is having a hard time actually grabbing the fly when it is whipping back and forth at a fast rate? Salmon are very fast powerful swimmers that is not the problem but moving side to side rapidly is something that they can have a problem with. I have purposely designed my hand made flies to be a little heavier and the bodies tighter together (more defined target)so that they are slower back and forth while the flasher or spinney is still maintaining at or close to its usual speed so they can grab them easier. Just my away of doing it but maybe something to think about....

Edited February 4, 2015 by Sk8man

momay4000 · February 4, 2015

OK boys, this is how we do it. It's not the only way, and some might say it's not the best way, but it works for us.

Should be live soon:

Very well done Captain. As always, thanks for taking the time to give us reports, tips, videos, etc. It is greatly appreciated

Cheers bud,

Chris

Gill-T · February 4, 2015

Aggressive whip action of the fly is fine for actively aggressive feeding fish but have you ever watched some of the videos here and on Youtube where the fish is having a hard time actually grabbing the fly when it is whipping back and forth at a fast rate? Salmon are very fast powerful swimmers that is not the problem but moving side to side rapidly is something that they can have a problem with. I have purposely designed my hand made flies to be a little heavier and the bodies tighter together (more defined target)so that they are slower back and forth while the flasher or spinney is still maintaining at or close to its usual speed so they can grab them easier. Just my away of doing it but maybe something to think about....

Agreed. My flies have four large 12mm beads and 30" leaders... more of a scoot and glide rather than a whip action.

BrokeOff · February 4, 2015

lot of different opinions. just tied up a bunch at 22" from head of fly to loop and 4 6mm beads

Sk8man · February 4, 2015

I use light weight metallic jewelery beads and pearls usually 4 or 5 of them per fly but smaller flies 3 beads and I make them sort of "forward and reverse" for different impact (i.e."wildflies") and I use 3D eyes on all mine.

Edited February 4, 2015 by Sk8man

Yankee Troller · February 4, 2015

I use light weight metallic jewelery beads and pearls usually 4 or 5 of them per fly but smaller flies 3 beads and I make them sort of "forward and reverse" for different impact (i.e."wildflies") and I use 3D eyes on all mine.

When I can afford to put pearls on my fly harnesses I wont be fishing Lake Ontario!

momay4000 · February 5, 2015

When I can afford to put pearls on my fly harnesses I wont be fishing Lake Ontario!

Capt. Hajecki,

What size is the clear tubing that you use for the echips and rattles? I use 1/8" but often it is a chore to squeeze the rattles in there.

Thanks a million,

Chris

Yankee Troller · February 5, 2015

Capt. Hajecki,

What size is the clear tubing that you use for the echips and rattles? I use 1/8" but often it is a chore to squeeze the rattles in there.

Thanks a million,

Chris

I don't think it's 1/4ID, but I know it's not 1/8ID. Not quite sure. I just order it from A-TOM-MIK.

Sk8man · February 5, 2015

Aw cmon Rick with all the big bucks you could use gold beads as well. Nothing like lightweight imitation pearls to catch the eye of a female chinook :lol:

Nautitroller · February 5, 2015

"She wants a pearl necklace!"

ZZ TOP! would be a cool name for a fly...

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dick black · February 15, 2015

Captain Hajecki, You ARE my Hero!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for all!! Blackie

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