Dipsey diver with fixed slider

[woody 184]

Guys I have been pondering this for some time now, I have been thinking about trying to run one fixed slider on my wire dipsey about 20 feet above the dipsey while I still run the normal flasher and fly as normal. I figured the weight of a nk-28 would not affect anything on the dipsey setup and would give me a couple more spoons in the target zone. I was wondering if any of you guys have tried this or thought about it.... It makes sense to me to run one or two per dipsey... Thanks in advance guys.. Woody

[momay4000]

Sounds like a cluster F@@k.

 

1.)The Dipsy isn't running vertical, instead the wire will be planing near horizontal within 20' of the Dipsy so the only thing you will wind up with is one big tangle. In order to run a slider effectively, you need you main line to be near vertical like a downrigger.

 

2.) It a fish hits your dipsy, you don't want to be messing around with removing a fixed slider when you're retrieving your wire line. This is asking for serious trouble given that the wire has no stretch.

 

Bad idea all around,

 

Chris

[Sk8man]

Ditto on Chris' comments. Those of us who use wire for Seth Greens have had all sorts of variations on that and it is not a pretty sight....if you do it keep some wire cutters and a knife real handy

Edited February 5, 2015 by Sk8man

[TyeeTanic]

I saw someone at a tournament attach two lines to their wire dipsey setup.

Can't remember how they did it. But at the time I thought it was a good idea.

[bandrus1]

way way to complicated

[Big Water]

I've seen diagrams of this exact setup, so someone is doing it.  The problems I see is that the spoon would not be very far from the wire because of the shallow angle and the stated problem of clearing it if a fish hits the flasher.. 

[Sk8man]

It isn't that it can't be done.... more of a question about should it be done. Why risk $50 worth of wire and possibly screwing up a dipsey/flasher/fly setup to gain the additional lure when there are better ways of doing it say as in sliders from downriggers.

Edited February 5, 2015 by Sk8man

[woody 184]

Guys I appreciate your responses.. I think it is doable but it's a gamble that it won't wad up a bunch of lines and mess up an hour of fishing.. But I look at it like this, when I first mated on charter boats they were running just 1 dipsey on each side of the boat and I'm sure somebody said we should try running 2 on each side and they said your crazy trying that, your gonna have a huge mess on your hands.... Now look what they are doing... Woody

[Silver Fox]

Woody, send us a pic after the mess it makes.....lol

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[woody 184]

Lmao... You know I have to try...

[TyeeTanic]

I don't know guys. I saw a charter boat in a competition last year with 4 lines setup in a way with two baits off

one dipsey. I wish I would've taken a picture. At the time I though it just might work. And why run 4 of them at once

if it wasn't almost foolproof?

[Sk8man]

If you're really into multiple  lures try running an umbrella rig for chinooks with a five lure setup and you might get a feel for what we're talking about

[Fishtails]

If you're really into multiple  lures try running an umbrella rig for chinooks with a five lure setup and you might get a feel for what we're talking about

 

Yeah, because running an umbrella rig or a daisy chain for that matter is what woody is talking about.  No comparison to what was being asked and to be honest if it worked as well as an umbrella rig does for stripped bass I'd do it in a heartbeat!  Used by a competent fisherman correctly, good quality umbrella rigs such as a 49'er won't tangle. 

 

Just not sure what your point was Les ???

Edited February 8, 2015 by Fishtails

[joe g]

would you be able to release the dipsy with a big fish hooked to the fixed slider? 

[Silver Fox]

This topic is an excellent example of the winter blues setting in big time! Lol

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[Fishtails]

This topic is an excellent example of the winter blues setting in big time! Lol

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    So true ! 

 

Excellent point you make Joe ! 

[Sk8man]

Basically I was joking....inferring that wire can get really screwed up when/if it does get tangled. I was also alluding to the fact that there may be more productive ways to run multiple lures than running them from a diver setup.....that's all...no real brain drain intended

[woody 184]

Guys I really appreciate the input on my fixed slider idea.. I really never thought about the angle of the wire. I never thought about the wire getting damaged in any way.. Again my ultimate goal was to splash a couple extra lures in the water column. Les I personally don't think the umbrella rig will work . I think it would probably look awesome going through the water but I think that rig would cause a wad behind the boat.. Guys I will give it a shot in the summer time and will give you feedback on the outcome.. I think it will work with just one fixed lure on each side of the boat. That's why this forum is so good, we can bounce ideas off each other and accept the feedback and move forward..... Some of these ideas are a little more out there than others..... Lmao... Woody

[Sk8man]

Good luck with it. Experimenting is what this stuff is all about....if it works for you that's all that counts. have a great upcoming season. Les

[ReelPower]

I think it is worth a shot with a braid dipsey line. Rubber stopper? Probably a steelies killer, if you can untangle it.

[brucehookedup]

I have and still do occasionally run a free slider on my wires or mono divers. Are they effective, not really the hot set up, but they will catch fish without a major mess. Nothing else it makes me feel good.

[Silver Fox]

Did you hit your head after your sled spill? Hope your doing well Bruce.

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[DJ 17]

If you really wanted to try to run 2 lures off a dipsy you could put a three way swivel at the end of your leader behind the dipsy. then run 2 leaders of different lengths, 1 to a diving plug, and the other to a spoon.  let it out VERY slow and it should run true.  It will be a mess when you get a fish but it may work if you have the patience to try it.  It works on walleyes, not sure how much of a disaster it would be on a king?? Or god forbid if 2 ever hit at the same time!! I would think it would be game over real quick

[Yankee Troller]

It isn't that it can't be done.... more of a question about should it be done. Why risk $50 worth of wire and possibly screwing up a dipsey/flasher/fly setup to gain the additional lure when there are better ways of doing it say as in sliders from downriggers.

 

This exactly! Imagine a king smacking the spoon so hard it cracks your wire. You're now out the cheater and lure, but also a diver and whatever was behind that.

 

These fish are either on a diver bite or not. If not pull them and put out more junk lines. If they are then put a few more divers out. 

[brucehookedup]

Yes i did scott, i had a open skull fracture with 13 stitches and two cracked vertebrae in my lower neck. Sold the sled, all done riding. 45yrs i seen the light. It will take a little bit to get me back to usual. I am happy to be alive and not a vegetable. Thanks for asking.