I think I know this fish but not 100 percent sure

[Sk8man]

I caught this this morning at Seneca Lake Park marina on a jig and spike while fishing for perch and it was about 17 or 18 inches long. It may be a golden shiner but it is by far the largest I've ever seen and its scales and body shape were more carp like but the mouth and head are more like a shiner. I threw it back unharmed anyway.

[Great Lakes Lure Maker]

Certainly does look like a golden shiner. 

[dremarquis]

hey Les,

 

looks like a golden shiner to me too, but i had no idea they could get that large.

 

You probably threw back a world record!  

 

dre

[dremarquis]

hey Les,

 

looks like a golden shiner to me too, but i had no idea they could get that large.

 

You probably threw back a world record!  

 

dre

[Sea-IV]

That from what I am told is an American shad

[Great Lakes Lure Maker]

Golden shiners lack scales between the ventrical and anal fins and very seldom grow past 10 inches. Got the McClains fishing encyclopedia out. American shad has 5 dots, large to small on its side and a deeply forked tail. 

[Sea-IV]

Looking at the scale pattern could it be a species of carp

[GAMBLER]

Rudd

[bandrus1]

common at that

[Great Lakes Lure Maker]

We Googled Rudd and it appears that is a good bet. 38.5 cm was the largest recorded from Ontario.

[bandrus1]

i still think golden shiner

[Huntyeraws]

Yep, Gambler hit it!  That is a rudd.  Invasive and spreading.  They catch a lot along the Niagara River.  This one either spread via bait bucket or via the Erie/Seneca Canal system into Seneca.  Common site in Conesus Lake.  Often see them with the walleye and pike in the inlet during their spring spawning run.  They grow BIG!  

[jstfshn]

This is what happens when left over live bait is dumped in the water.

[Hookedup]

I've got a pond full of them on the farm bass love them

[Sk8man]

Rudd it is!   Thanks Gambler

[quality time]

Looks like some good pike bait!

[bluetop]

I caught 16 of them one day last year on Cayuga. I was using mealworms in 20' of water at the south end. They were all between a pound and a pound and 1/2. They put up a strong and fun fight. However, they aren't very tasty. My inquiries pointed to them being large golden shiners.

[Zebedee]

Did you catch any perch? I was thinking about staging the kids over there with some bobbers. I like those new docks they put in by the launch.

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[Zebedee]

Did you catch any perch? I was thinking about dragging the kids over there with some bobbers. I like those new docks they put in by the launch.

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[wrench]

Sk8. - big Rudd

The Rudd population is growing every year. I perch fish with a camera down there and see huge schools of them .

Once they are that big I don't think anything can eat them.... Maybe the Eagles

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[Great Lakes Lure Maker]

That would be something to see! Just seeing eagles now is an awesome sight.  

[Sk8man]

Zebedee you have a PM

[prolineandy]

I caought 2 in the mix of the perch I caught today in the park

[thumbburn]

Rudd..... For sure

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[lakebound88]

Rudd did. × 200000000

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