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Heard similar report but have not seen any pics or true story. This past weekend there was a decent Atlantic caught out of sodus and according to DEC it was a Brown/Atlantic hybrid. Very interesting....... 

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I don't believe a brown and an atlantic can mate to make a hybrid as their genetic makeup is too different.  I could make a correlation about humans and sheep ......but you get the picture  :shake:

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I don't believe a brown and an atlantic can mate to make a hybrid as their genetic makeup is too different. I could make a correlation about humans and sheep ......but you get the picture :shake:

What he said! I would hope the DEC wouldn't make such a ridiculous claim.

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we were all very suspicious ourselves but they (DEC) was standing behind it. just one of those "OK" moments and let it go versus argue with them.

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Be careful guys, they use to be called the Genetically modified salmon or GM salmon and yes they can breed with trout to make a hybrid. There's a ton of research about it if you google it. Have no idea though how NYS got into the mix. For what's it worth.

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a while back the dec crossed a coho/walleye/muskie.

it had the size of a muskie, the fight of a coho, and the table fare of a walleye.

they called it a kowalskie.

the plan failed because they had to teach each of them how to swim.

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I don't believe a brown and an atlantic can mate to make a hybrid as their genetic makeup is too different.  I could make a correlation about humans and sheep ......but you get the picture  :shake:

 

Atlantics are in the Salmo (trout) family and have been known to cross with their close relatives the brown trout:

 

  1. ^ Youngson, A. F., Webb, J. H., Thompson, C. E., and Knox, D. 1993. Spawning of escaped farmed Atlantic salmon (Salmo salar): hybridization of females with brown trout (Salmo trutta). Canadian Journal of Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences, 50:1986-1990.
  2. Jump up ^ Matthews, M. A., Poole, W. R., Thompson, C. E., McKillen, J., Ferguson, A., Hindar, K., and Wheelan, K. F. 2000. Incidence of hybridization between Atlantic salmon, Salmo salar L., and brown trout, Salmo trutta L., in Ireland. Fisheries Management and Ecology, 7:337-347.
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I believe this was the fish at this weekend's Salmon Slam that the DEC, who were at the Salmon Slam taking samples, said they believed was a hybrid between an Atlantic and Brown.  You'll notice the tail is flatter than your usual Atlantic...

 

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Atlantics are in the Salmo (trout) family and have been known to cross with their close relatives the brown trout:

 

  1. ^ Youngson, A. F., Webb, J. H., Thompson, C. E., and Knox, D. 1993. Spawning of escaped farmed Atlantic salmon (Salmo salar): hybridization of females with brown trout (Salmo trutta). Canadian Journal of Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences, 50:1986-1990.
  2. Jump up ^ Matthews, M. A., Poole, W. R., Thompson, C. E., McKillen, J., Ferguson, A., Hindar, K., and Wheelan, K. F. 2000. Incidence of hybridization between Atlantic salmon, Salmo salar L., and brown trout, Salmo trutta L., in Ireland. Fisheries Management and Ecology, 7:337-347.

 

 

 

Thanks for posting that info.  Now we have another reason to misidentify browns and atlantics on the finger lakes forum. :lol:

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I don't believe a brown and an atlantic can mate to make a hybrid as their genetic makeup is too different.  I could make a correlation about humans and sheep ......but you get the picture  :shake:

I don't know about them weird fish in the water, but I have heard that some weird people keep on trying to cross breed with sheep.

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Thanks for posting that info.  Now we have another reason to misidentify browns and atlantics on the finger lakes forum. :lol:

I was thinking the same thing 

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WOW....nice !!

 

 

 

What he said! I would hope the DEC wouldn't make such a ridiculous claim. 

 

Oh, they did Paul.  I looked at it pretty close and the only thing she cited was that it had a more squared tail than she's expect from an Atlantic.  I wasn't seeing what she saw, but then again there is a reason I refinish furniture and she works for the DEC.  Granted it wasn't very forked, but it wasn't square either. 

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Atlantics can get much bigger than 20 #

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