Linking Baystar Hydraullic to kicker

[salmonite]

I am upgrading my steering to hydraulic on a 125hp merc and currently I have an EZ steer which will work but I don't like having the tie bar behind the motors. I would prefer it in the front so I can detach if needed. My question is anyone have ideas on how to do that?  I believe baystar has a connection tie but don't think it works on the baystar (up to 150hp) kits.  I also don't want to drop more money on a Garmin tr1 auto pilot kicker or the wireless steering from panther.

Edited March 29, 2016 by salmonite

[CK3080]

I will be doing this shortly between my Yamaha T9.9 and F200 with seastar hydraulic steering.  My current plan is to use a Panther 552600 stainless steering rod and Panther 555705 hydraulic adapter kit.  Hoping it works out.  Panther products are found here:

 

http://www.panthermarineproducts.com/electro-steer-and-steering

 

Cabelas also carries them:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/boating/boating-outboards-accessories/boat-steering|/pc/104794380/c/104752980/sc/104602680/auxiliary-motor-connector-rods/700014.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse.cmd%3FN%3D1100540

and

http://www.cabelas.com/product/boating/boating-outboards-accessories/boat-steering|/pc/104794380/c/104752980/sc/104602680/hydraulic-steering-adapter/738139.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse.cmd%3FN%3D1100540

[Chas0218]

I run the cabelas arm and it works great.

Edited March 29, 2016 by Chas0218

[salmonite]

thanks guys I was told the panther adapter will not work on the baystar kit only the seastar, chas are you using the adapter on your motor?

Edited March 29, 2016 by salmonite

[salmonite]

Also CK please update me when you try this..

[CK3080]

Will do.  Kicker should be installed this week (dont like to drill holes in transoms myself), and should be getting tie rod in next week.

[salmonite]

I just noticed you have a 200hp and probably not the same application because I have the baystar not seastar

[lrg355]

I have two female rod end bearings with a piece of stainless threaded rod between. Inexpensive and can make any necessary length with some final adjustment. McMaster Carr has them. Can do it for

about $30

[salmonite]

@lrg355, do you have a picture of how you connected to the hydraulic unit on the main motor?

[stinger]

Search "panther auxiliary Motor Connector Rods" in Goggle Images and you'll see pictures of various connections. You should find a couple that would be similar to your setup.

[salmonite]

Search "panther auxiliary Motor Connector Rods" in Goggle Images and you'll see pictures of various connections. You should find a couple that would be similar to your setup.

 

Yeah I have done that but like I said most pictures are for the "seastar unit" and not the bay star (under 150hp). Called seastar and they told me to call marine tech, called marine tech and they had no clue what baystar is.. ugh

[Chas0218]

I used 2 large band clamps some rubber, and some straight aluminum stock to make my mounts and wrap around the mid section of my large outboard and my kicker. I don't have any pictures I will try and find something similar. It looks like the photo below but mine is around the mid section just under the cowling.

 

Edited March 31, 2016 by Chas0218

[Chas0218]

Here is a link to the one I used, I couldn't remember the name of it.

http://www.iboats.com/Kicker-Motor-Steering-Connector-Kit/dm/cart_id.911686139--session_id.270533095--view_id.37928

 

This is the one pictured above. If you scroll down you will see panther makes a L bracket to adapt the hydraulic steering to your kicker.

http://www.iboats.com/E-Z-Steer-Auxiliary-Outboard-Steering-Systems/dm/view_id.38357

Edited March 31, 2016 by Chas0218

[Sk8man]

I have a hunch that the connector fittings may be upside down on that installation in the pic. Mine are facing upward so that when you disconnect the rod you just lift up the rod when releasing from the boat when necessary. I should think it would also be easier to drop the rod in the water with them pointing downward as has been done reportedly by folks on here. I'd be interested in an experienced marine installers take on it.

[Chas0218]

I have a hunch that the connector fittings may be upside down on that installation in the pic. Mine are facing upward so that when you disconnect the rod you just lift up the rod when releasing from the boat when necessary. I should think it would also be easier to drop the rod in the water with them pointing downward as has been done reportedly by folks on here. I'd be interested in an experienced marine installers take on it.

I agree I think you are right. Mine are facing up.

[salmonite]

Those are ez steers. I am looking to get one in front of motors

[Chas0218]

Those are ez steers. I am looking to get one in front of motors

Here this will let you put one of those ends on the connecting arm.

http://www.iboats.com/Hydraulic-Steering-Motor-Link-Adaptor-Kit-Panther/dm/cart_id.911686139--session_id.027242766--view_id.858816 

[Chas0218]

Here is the link to the bay/sea star linkage arm.

http://www.iboats.com/Trolling-Motor-Tie-Bar-Kit/dm/cart_id.911686139--session_id.027242766--view_id.49403

[salmonite]

Won't work on bay star only sea star

[stinger]

Yeah I have done that but like I said most pictures are for the "seastar unit" and not the bay star (under 150hp). Called seastar and they told me to call marine tech, called marine tech and they had no clue what baystar is.. ugh

Salmon,....it doesn't matter what type of steering you have to use that steering bar. I have a BayStar system like you and all I did was use the clamp that comes with the unit to attach to the steer arm on my main. Depending on the geometry of your setup you may have to fabricate a plate or extension to give you full steering movement without hitting anything.

There are many different transom layouts out there and some self fabrication/adaptor may be needed. We can better advise you if you post a picture of your engine set up.

Here is a pic showing the attachment at the main engine like the way I did it.

[salmonite]

Salmon,....it doesn't matter what type of steering you have to use that steering bar. I have a BayStar system like you and all I did was use the clamp that comes with the unit to attach to the steer arm on my main. Depending on the geometry of your setup you may have to fabricate a plate or extension to give you full steering movement without hitting anything.

There are many different transom layouts out there and some self fabrication/adaptor may be needed. We can better advise you if you post a picture of your engine set up.

Here is a pic showing the attachment at the main engine like the way I did it.

 

ok, so you never actually used the adapter that marine tech makes? it was my understanding that picture you showed was the set up for cable steered boats and the shaft on baystar doesn't move enough to hook it up that way but I will give it a try

 

Thank you!

Edited March 31, 2016 by salmonite

[salmonite]

Thank you stinger for sending me the pics of your boat!! it is solved, stinger used some crafty engineering that I will copy!

[chuck527]

Can you guys possibly throw a pic on this thread showing how it is attatched. I have a Honda 150 with sea star hydraulic steering and I'm wondering if I could hook it up better. The Honda has a front extension that the ball stud screws into but I'm afraid that if I oversteer it will interfere with the hydraulic steering. Thanks, Paul.

[salmonite]

These are for sea star hydraulic steering. They sell adapters at marine tech to complete these.

Edited April 6, 2016 by salmonite

[salmonite]

if you have the bay star unit, stinger will have to upload his engineered bracket to link the two together as my computer is not letting me save the images from the pm he sent me