Daiwa copper reels

[frontrowjoe20]

Has anyone used the sealine 60 for copper? I can get a good deal on 2 for $80each. Looking to do a 350 and 450 45lb copper

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[Sk8man]

Joe you might want to check out the reel capacity information provided by skipper 19 on here to make your determination and avoid problems. Here is one of the recent discussions. (There were more previously ) http://www.lakeontariounited.com/fishing-hunting/topic/58882-new-reels-for-copper-but-need-some-input/

[frontrowjoe20]

I bought them. Ended up getting them for $70 each. Hard to pass up. If they end up being junk I'll use them striper fishing. I liked the capacity and fast retrieve. Thanks a bunch for the capacity sheet

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[skipper19]

I bought them. Ended up getting them for $70 each. Hard to pass up. If they end up being junk I'll use them striper fishing. I liked the capacity and fast retrieve. Thanks a bunch for the capacity sheet

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Here ya go Joe!..if you need help running the spread sheet just pm me, I'll help ya thru it. You can make edits to the value fields on an Android if you download the sheets app.

Mark

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13FzwTaoEhX8IpbeJW5PzH5ZZFOhLEsUZRtOp0jh0iDQ/edit?usp=drive_web

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Edited June 23, 2016 by skipper19

[frontrowjoe20]

Took a minute on the phone but looks like I can fit 500 of 45/50

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[frontrowjoe20]

Now to decide which 2 lengths for Oswego area....any suggestions?

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[Sk8man]

I think you'll really fully appreciate that 6:1 gear ratio with  a 500 ft copper

[frontrowjoe20]

I did a charter 2 years ago and got a 21lb Lakers on 500 . I can't imagine a 30-35lb king lol

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[skipper19]

Took a minute on the phone but looks like I can fit 500 of 45/50

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You wouldn't get much backing on there with 500. I would recommend 900 feet 30 lb braid. And you can get 450 feet 45 lb on there. Also be aware that this table works with blood run diameter copper which is smaller than others. Try to leave about .25 or more in the green box for your leader. A 0 reading is right to the top, no room for a leader wind on.

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[frontrowjoe20]

Thanks skipper. I'm gonna go for 350 and 450

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[skipper19]

Thanks skipper. I'm gonna go for 350 and 450

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Your welcome, if you still want to use 50lb braid backing, 900 feet of that will fit a 400 blood run 45 lb very tightly. You would definitely have enough room with 30lb braid without too tight on that combo with 400. 450 will be pretty tight however. Space goes fast with 45lb!

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[frontrowjoe20]

I think I'm going to put less backing. 900 is nice but 6-700 should work

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[skipper19]

Yeah, that is probably fine, especially in a chute position straight off the rod in the middle. Running boards or side planners will reduce the effective backing for a king running off. You might have 100 feet deployed from you backing in some cases. I know I do when I use the outriggers on them.

I have essentially the same reels in the Seagate 60 model. One is a 400 45lb and the other a 600 32 lb. Both are backed with 900 30lb braid and work flawlessly. Nice fast reels and good drags too!

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Edited June 23, 2016 by skipper19

[Buckmaster7600]

I have 4 of them 2 300's and 2 400's I love them! I wish u got the deal u did but at 90$ a piece I'm more than satisfied with them.

[Rich D]

You can always go between and run 40lb backing. I have my 400,450,500 Seagate with 40 lb backing. Gives you a little more strength than the 30, and more backing then the 50lb. I am running 45lb ATOMMIK cooper. With the 30lb PP, I have had break offs at the braid from the board. Just FYI, but no issues with the 40lb. You will love the drags and the ratio!!! Clicker is very loud also!!! Good Luck.

Capt Rich

[skipper19]

That's the Seagate 60 with the 600 32lb copper. Nice fit!

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[frontrowjoe20]

Thanks everyone. Its my first year on the lake on my own. Needless to say I'm hooked. Just got a fishhawk to help me out as well. Just need the fish

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[skipper19]

Thanks everyone. Its my first year on the lake on my own. Needless to say I'm hooked. Just got a fishhawk to help me out as well. Just need the fish

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Good luck! They are out there! What port you fishing?

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[frontrowjoe20]

I'm about 3 1/2 hours south so closest port is Oswego . I did surprisingly well my first trip so hope to find some kings next trip

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[skipper19]

I'm about 3 1/2 hours south so closest port is Oswego . I did surprisingly well my first trip so hope to find some kings next trip

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Ok, yeah it's a good ride for you then. I used to be that far away down towards oneonta. Now I'm 15 minutes to point breeze and the Oak! Oswego is a great port with a lot of fun all around! Look up Pete Shelhammer on the red dock, boat name On The Lam, he would be a good source for on the spot info! Good man!

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[frontrowjoe20]

If I have a 500 copper but the fish decide they don't want to be that deep. Can I run 400 copper off my board with the rest on my reel? I have done it will leadcore running 6 colors out of 10 . I usually just have to put it in the top holder on my trees.  I don't have 5-10 rods for copper so if I get 2 500' that will allow me to fish many depths.   input???  

[skipper19]

Yes you can run any distance that you want One of the best ways to let out less than the 500 to is to mark the copper with fluorescent paint every 100 feet. Run your copper down the chute. You cannot hook copper directly to a release, it will break. I use dental floss tied in a D loop on the copper for the release attachment on out riggers. You could do that for planning devices too.

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[frontrowjoe20]

I want to thank all the guys that PMed me with input and especially skipper19 for taking the time to discuss this with me. The spreadsheet was dead on and its was a perfect fit for my reels.

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[skipper19]

You are welcome Joe, glad the sheet was helpful, and you should like those sealine 60's! Similar to the Seagate and nice quick retrieve! Good luck! Tell us some stories of success now! Nice pics BTW!

Mark

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[frontrowjoe20]

In case people are wondering the pics have 550ft of 32lb blood run copper and 600ft of 40lb spiderwire backing with 30ft of gamma 30lb fluro.

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