Spoon Rigging Questions

[nlong27]

I typically run my spoons 30-80 foot sometimes further. And I won't run a flasher with them

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[nlong27]

To make the most of your spread try a cheater line. Tie a leader up about 8 foot long with snap swivels on both ends. After you've done that rig your main line. Send it down roughly 8-10 foot and tie a rubber band to your main line and run your newly tied leader through the rubber band and clip it to your main line above your rubber band and send it down to your desired depth. Only do this with a spoon. Hope this helps increase your odds

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[Low Baller]

Good read, keep it simple stupid. They say 10% of the fishermen catch 90% of the fish, but every squirrel finds a nut sooner or later. Keep at it

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[Todd in NY]

To make the most of your spread try a cheater line. Tie a leader up about 8 foot long with snap swivels on both ends. After you've done that rig your main line. Send it down roughly 8-10 foot and tie a rubber band to your main line and run your newly tied leader through the rubber band and clip it to your main line above your rubber band and send it down to your desired depth. Only do this with a spoon. Hope this helps increase your odds

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Thanks for the tips. Last weekend I ran some spoons off 2 riggers without flashers. 15ft above the spoon I attached one of those Dream Weaver sticker stackers with a swivel attached to another spoon. We weren't marking a bunch of fish but when I brought the riggers up to change colors I found my cheater line twisted around the main line. I had the cheater spoon attached to a swivel, but it twisted anyway. The spoon on the end of the main line was also on a swivel in hopes of the lines not twisting. I was running all four riggers with wingers on the outside riggers. I had no tangles at all, just the cheater lines twisted around the main line that they were attached to. The cheater lines were 5-6ft long.

Looks like I'll have to pick up some rubber bands so I can have a swivel on both ends of the cheater.

Edited August 30, 2016 by Todd in NY

[Todd in NY]

He can go to ranger school get his associates with a 1 + 1 and it's a SUNY school. A lot smaller class and they structure it alot more like a job. Almost impossible to get off track. I got my associates in forestry there. Nice because they graduate under 100 kids very close relationship with the teachers.

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

[nlong27]

Maybe make them longer. We don't really have any issues when we run them except when we pop the rods to run in then they like to twist up

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[Todd in NY]

Maybe that's what happened to mine, they twisted when I popped them to reel them in. They weren't twisting when I lowered them down.

[nlong27]

That's prolly it then.

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[nlong27]

I don't think we've ever had a twist sending them down or trolling with them.

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[Todd in NY]

Ok, that's good to know. I learned about cheaters while fishing with a friend this summer.

[nlong27]

Wait till you let one out and a fish comes up and grabs the spoon while your getting ready to let it down hahaha

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[Todd in NY]

Sounds like fun, and hectic while trying to lock the reel so the drag does its job.

[relentless]

Good luck out there. I see in other posts you go to cranberry lake. I'm a ranger school graduate from Wanakena. Used to fish out in front of the school some but didn't have a boat to go out in to the lake.

RS 00'

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[quality time]

What pound leader are you running? Wes

[lily]

RS 2001

[Todd in NY]

What pound leader are you running? Wes

30 pound big game mono for now, same as my main line.

[nlong27]

Try running floro carbon. I run 20lb run your leader about 10 foot

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[Todd in NY]

Try running floro carbon. I run 20lb run your leader about 10 foot

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Is there any particular brand of flouro I should stay away from? I've been hesitant to use leaders longer than 6 feet because I have the fully enclosed "bulkhead" cabin on my 2160, which doesn't allow as much room for netting a fish on longer leaders. I can't back into the cabin to bring the fish closer to the boat.

 

[nlong27]

Dam. And I use seaguar or vanish. I cut corners where I can and as sad as it is to say line is one of those things I cheap out on

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[Todd in NY]

I used braided line for a few years on my bass rods (nearly 15 years ago) and didn't notice any improvement in my catch rate, so I went back to mono. I have never lost a fish when using the Berkeley Big Game mono, so that's what I use on all my rods. I've also never had a knot come loose with with it either. I know other lines have their advantages but I fish for fun, and I don't get paid to fish. Keeping things simple helps keep fishing in my budget.

I'll pick up some 20lb Seaguar flouro so I can try it out. Thanks!

Edited September 1, 2016 by Todd in NY

[nlong27]

I wanna start doing tournaments in the future then I might start upgrading but for now I'm with you it's all just for fun

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[quality time]

You want to go as low as you can. In the spring we drop as low as 6 or 8lb test. The lighter the line the better the lure action. We are

talking rigger rods only. If you are running wire you need to up the

size because the main line has no stretch. In the finger lakes I

never go higher than 15 pound leader if the water is murky and 12 if it is clear. I run 20lb leader on my rigger rods for salmon in Lake O.

A few

years ago we were fishing lake O all day with no luck. Huge schools of fish and many boats with no nets going over the side. I had one of

my finger lakes rods stowed below deck and decided to get it out and

give it a try. We landed 7 fish in the next few hours on that rod with 8 lb test including 2 salmon, a rainbow, and a couple lakers. My

point is size matters and you can catch large fish on light line as

long as you sre not in combat fishing mode

[Sk8man]

Wes makes some good points here. The line diameter can be especially important for browns in clear water conditions. Stay away from the Vanish and Vicious brands of fluoro The Vanish especially has low to no knot strength.

Edited September 2, 2016 by Sk8man

[nlong27]

You make a good point I never of changing diameter, I'm not gunna lie we get in a slup sometimes where we can't move a rod, might have to keep some 15lb on the boat. I never had an issue with vanish. We've boated kings all day long and never had a knot pull

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[Todd in NY]

Thanks for the input on line diameter. I might only make it back out on Lake O one more time this year because of farm work and winter prep around the house, so making new leaders will be on my winter time to-do list.