Stick Baits on Seth Green rigs

[Never Ends]

Anyone ever tried this when weeds are not an issue?

[Sk8man]

Have used them in the past but had to change hooks to singles because of the hook number limitations in the regs and adjust for weight difference (e.g. 9 hookpoints on a Rapala vs 3 singles replacement) so I could run five at a time. In my opinion spoons are more effective.

Edited February 25, 2018 by Sk8man

[Skidplate]

I only do on the bottom leader and a big one when I do. 5 lures per rod used to be by points so if you put single hooks on you could run 15 per rod I think  probably wrong send me the ticket LoL

[Skidplate]

Oops I meant 10.

[Skidplate]

And I'm not sure why weed's would be a problem but I use a jug when rig fishing 

[Sk8man]

Yeah the reg used to allow 15 points per rod (interpretation at least) that you could have on each of two rods per person (before they changed to allow three rods but only 5 leaders per rod).

[Never Ends]

Thanks For the infor!!!

[gasman2438]

ON A BOAT 3 RODS EACH PERSON.. 5 BAITS ON EACH ROD.. 15 HOOK POINTS EACH ROD..

[Sk8man]

Not just on a boat.... 3 rods per person onshoreline or ice fishing as well

[ifishy]

Ice fishing is 7 lines any combo of tipup tipdown or hand line

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[Sk8man]

* I haven't seen anywhere where it mentions "combination" of lines not sure where it says that....Just the change in 2017 where 7 tipups are now permitted. I believe that the three rod limit is in addition to that.

Edited March 3, 2018 by Sk8man

[ifishy]

I'll have to go back and look the change was to get rid of the ambiguity around what is a tip up so instead of 5 tipups (traps) and two hand lines it's now just 7 total lines in combination

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[Sk8man]

I think you are correct in the actual reg :https://govt.westlaw.com/nycrr/Document/I21c07304c22211ddb7c8fb397c5bd26b?viewType=FullText&originationContext=documenttoc&transitionType=CategoryPageItem&contextData=(sc.Default)&bhcp=1

Looks like they have considered hand lines the same  as "tipups" or "tipdowns" so it would be a total of 7. I think that was probably so that the automatic devices would be included as well.

Edited March 3, 2018 by Sk8man

[ifishy]

its one of the changes in recent years that i have been really happy to see and a sign that the DEC at least wants to try and work with fisherman. 

[Lucky13]

My sense of it was that people were interpreting the 3 rod rule as allowing 3 rods and 5 tip-ups, or 8 lines total, and they wanted to be clear that it was still 7 total.  Also, when the original language was written, tip downs, etc. had not been invented yet.

[Sk8man]

I think it may be more like the automatic rigs that use regular jigging rods in them as the original tip downs (not the PVC etc. ones) that I am familiar with have actually been around since the 50's. 

[gasman2438]

HOW DID WE GET FROM, Stick Baits on Seth Green rigs, TO ICE FISHING

[ifishy]

the boats not uncovered yet so the mind wanders.  as for the regs when 3 rods was first introduced it actually had a provision for ice fishing you could do 5 tip ups and 3 hand lines.  that was only for that one (maybe two) years.  than they changed it to the 7 period.  the ambiguity in tip ups stemmed from the definition that was used that stated any line with a signaling device could be considered a tip up so by definition if you had a spring bobber on your jig rod and put your jig rod down it became a tip up for that time because you could see a hit.  

that used to be the source of all sorts of "fun" conversations and thought experiments on various chat rooms.  the new rule is very clear 7 and you have to attend them.  there are still hypothetical's out there but mostly they are just the result of ridiculousness or boredom and not very practical

 

as for seth green rigs I have run them a couple times i don't see any reason you couldn't run a stick bait.  i would think a shallow diver would run much better than a deep diver but that is just speculation.  i have limited experience with rigs they work and i did catch fish they just are not the top of my personal preference list