Shimano Talora Dipsey rods

[Fly n Fish]

Anyone use there Dipsy rods? Wire roller tips? Looking to upgrade my dipsy rods.
 
 
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[nhjim]

have one of there 8' reg guides set up with braid very happy so far.seems well built and not a $30 tree trunk.

[dry net]

I have a 9' medium that I use with a lite bite on Champlain. Like it fine so far.

[Chowdaire]

I use the 8 footers for my wire divers. Love ‘em but they don’t have the expensive tip like the longer ones. Just a plain roller.


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[John E Powell]

Talora rods with ceramic guides are fine, especially when using 19-strand wire. Use a Twili tip, there’s no need for roller guides.


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[Fly n Fish]

Talora rods with ceramic guides are fine, especially when using 19-strand wire. Use a Twili tip, there’s no need for roller guides.


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Thanks, are the roller guide any smoother?


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[John E Powell]

Thanks, are the roller guide any smoother?

 

 

 

Under the right circumstances yes. However, roller rods need to be oriented in the rod holders to oppose the pull of the divers. If they’re oriented more than about 15-20 degrees either way the wire will walk up the rollers and rub the inside of the frames. They’re also a notably heavier rod with all the added guide weight.

 

The guy I fish with regularly runs mag divers on short 7’ roller Talora in the inside and reg divers on longer 10’ ring guide Talora on the outside. He’s happy with both. I’ve noticed that the 3 or so rollers near his rod tips have a lot of frame wear so there’s a good amount of torsional loading on these rods when pulling back and really loading the tip when fighting fish. This is not something that would cause wear on a ceramic ring guide.

 

There is a recommended freshwater maintenance interval for the AFTCO roller guides. Most people are unaware of that point.

 

 

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[Fly n Fish]

 Under the right circumstances yes. However, roller rods need to be oriented in the rod holders to oppose the pull of the divers. If they’re oriented more than about 15-20 degrees either way the wire will walk up the rollers and rub the inside of the frames. They’re also a notably heavier rod with all the added guide weight.
 
The guy I fish with regularly runs mag divers on short 7’ roller Talora in the inside and reg divers on longer 10’ ring guide Talora on the outside. He’s happy with both. I’ve noticed that the 3 or so rollers near his rod tips have a lot of frame wear so there’s a good amount of torsional loading on these rods when pulling back and really loading the tip when fighting fish. This is not something that would cause wear on a ceramic ring guide.
 
There is a recommended freshwater maintenance interval for the AFTCO roller guides. Most people are unaware of that point.
 
 
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Specializing in building Great Lakes trolling rods since 1979
First place winner of the 2016 World Rod Building Challenge
 
 

Thanks John, I'm going to order them today

Eric


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[Fishmaster 196]

I'm currently using 19 strand with my talora diver rods and am getting pig tails in the line. Will twilitips get rid of the pigtails? The rods are always kept in one piece and under tension.

[John E Powell]

I'm currently using 19 strand with my talora diver rods and am getting pig tails in the line. Will twilitips get rid of the pigtails? The rods are always kept in one piece and under tension.

They’ll reduce by not eliminate them.


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Specializing in building Great Lakes trolling rods since 1979
First place winner of the 2016 World Rod Building Challenge