Continued evidence of phasing out of DEC

[Gill-T]

https://www.hudsonvalley360.com/article/ecos-forced-cut-back-enforcement?wallit_nosession=1

[jimski2]

Deer hunting participants have diminished in my lifetime. Opening day car counts have fallen for the seventy mile drive to our camp have fallen from hundreds of parked cars roadside to seven cars last season in my sixty past years of hunting deer. The reason is all the “cityots” purchased the farmlands, built residential property and shooting a firearm nearby is unlawful. Now more deer are killed by the “cityots” traveling to the city for employment.


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[Gill-T]

?? Not sure I understand the connection?

Are you saying declining license sales is having the trickle down effect of reduced need for ECO’s?

[Rich s]

If this is happening it's a disgrace to the state of NY fish and game. I've had many friends and family involved in the ECO and every officer does a great service to our state environmental and game laws, state or private lands. Sadly I hope its not about $$$, Private sectors pay fines. A 30 million salary is nothing for the service they provide compared to the money the state spends on buying more land for nobody to oversee.

 

as for the decline in hunting : It's kinda 2 fold. Younger kids 30 years ago lost interest in many ways. 2 working parents became normal, advancement in modern technology peaked kids interests.. Yes Some land was lost due to the ever increasing housing development but there is only so much space on this planet and people outnumber space in areas that were open..

Personally, I think there is a resurgence in hunting and fishing. The youth programs are great.. The state (bite my lip ) is providing more opportunities for these activities .  

 

[Gill-T]

Opportunity in NY to hunt is incredible. I hunt state land and often find I have 1500 acres to myself.  Land availability is not the problem.  Go to Illinois and see how much opportunity is available. This ruling coming down from Seggos will be loved by poachers. 

Edited July 22, 2019 by Gill-T

[jimski2]

My point is nearby land is not available today.


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[Rich s]

7 hours ago, jimski2 said:

My point is nearby land is not available today.


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Not sure I agree with this.

[GAMBLER]

15 minutes ago, Rich s said:

 

Not sure I agree with this.

Me too!  Most guys think state land is over crowded.  If they walked more than 100yds from their vehicles, they would find an empty woods.

[Gill-T]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mpnnow.com/sports/20190818/lisenbee-recent-shifts-at-dec-lead-to-big-questions%3Ftemplate%3Dampart