Is there hope ?

[horsehunter]

9 minutes ago, HB2 said:

I hear high water pants are coming back into style . 

High water pants never were stylish. As for shorts I've only wore shorts 1 day in the past 40 years and burnt my legs so bad while cutting 2 acres of lawn I vowed never again. Long pants and long sleved shirts for me. I do like someone in shorts and Jesus boots in the boat as bait for the stable flies tho.

[chinook35]

High water pants never were stylish. As for shorts I've only wore shorts 1 day in the past 40 years and burnt my legs so bad while cutting 2 acres of lawn I vowed never again. Long pants and long sleved shirts for me. I do like someone in shorts and Jesus boots in the boat as bait for the stable flies tho.

I’m just the opposite. If I can’t fish in shorts , sandals and no shirt. I’m not going.


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[LongLine]

1 hour ago, horsehunter said:

Does anyone know what the maximum level reached in 2019 and when for the east end of the lake?

 

June 3, 2019, max was 249.1 Ft at Cape Vincent.

 

July remained in high 248's,  Aug stayed in low to mid 248's

 

 

[horsehunter]

Thanks for the numbers it seems I can only go back about 6 months on the Kingston On. gauge

[AAA]

3 hours ago, horsehunter said:

Does anyone know what the maximum level reached in 2019 and when for the east end of the lake?

The town of Napanee On. on the Bay of Quinte is saying this years levels could be 20 inches higher. Not sure how they could make that determination this early.

 

https://www.greaternapanee.com/Modules/News/index.aspx?newsId=91354fd4-884a-47cc-8c95-dae931e8fe62&feedId=9a5bbb6b-9d6d-46c3-9c93-54707873254b,eda0acf6-50ec-4981-83a3-bf568ad62119#

 

If this is even close to coming to pass there is little point to me paying for a slip at the marina. Last year i was parking the truck in 6 inches of water going into July.

According to the video that LO resident fluid engineer put together, the water level at end of 2018 was 245.34 and the peak for 2019 was 249.08.  He had predicted in July that end 2019 would be 245.9 but I believe it was actually 246.2 at end of 2019.

[horsehunter]

1 hour ago, AAA said:

According to the video that LO resident fluid engineer put together, the water level at end of 2018 was 245.34 and the peak for 2019 was 249.08.  He had predicted in July that end 2019 would be 245.9 but I believe it was actually 246.2 at end of 2019.

Even tho water seeks it's own level depending where levels are recorded they could vary significantly depending on wind time of day etc. At one point during the summer I would park on a damp parking lot and come back in to find 6 inches of water other days the reverse at one point even a few of the floating docks were pulled under water by their chains and anchors.

[Gill-T]

This today off olcott. No fish caught but the pier reveal is about normal for this time of year.

[lost a lure]

Lowered flow from 10,400 to 9,900 at 16:01 today. Heading back to normal.

[LongLine]

At 7:48 water level at Cape Vin was 245.73.  At Olcott was 246.24.  That's a 6" difference with ENE wind at only15 knots.

[HB2]

If the water is 20" higher this year , or even 10" , it will be catastrophic . 

Many dwellings will be severely impacted or lost . 

 

All this rain is certainly not helping . 

[fisherdude]

60 mile an hour winds today I got to think it going to do some damage up there today .

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[LongLine]

At 3 am Cape Vincent at 245.4.  At 8:45 am 246.6.

 

 

At 5:12am Ogdensburg at 243.4.  At 10:18am at 244.2

 

 

winds greatly affect current flow.  Gyre back to normal direction this time of year but current very strong.  Near 20cm along S shore.

 

 

I'm sure waves on top of that level & gyre doing damage.  Probably a lot of spray ice

 

 

 

[lost a lure]

Flow decrease from 9,900 to 9,400 then 9,000. 8750 is next.

[horsehunter]

This is a post I copied from the Bay OF Quinte Board

 

"

The US Army Corps of Engineers, in their Dec. 2019 predictions states:

"LAKE ONTARIO
Lake Ontario declined from November to December, and was 11 inches higher than it was the previous December, 19 inches above the LTA, and 8 inches below its record high. Going into January, the lake level is forecasted to begin its seasonal rise, and exceed the levels that they were last year. Over the forecast horizon, levels are expected to be 2 to 8 inches higher than they were last year for the first 4 months, and 15 to 23 inches below levels from last year in May and June."

It would be nice to think they are right but with all the upper lakes at or near record levels, I think their predicted levels for May and June for Lake Ontario are overly optimistic."

 

[lost a lure]

Back to 9,000 at 12:01 today

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[lost a lure]

9,250 coming tonight

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[fisherdude]

91 million dollars of Federal aid going to help the South shore property owners. That's just crazy for something that shouldn't have had been.

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[GAMBLER]

This might do some good! 

 

https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york-news/shipping-season-delayed/5657247/?cat=565

[lost a lure]

This might do some good! 

 

https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york-news/shipping-season-delayed/5657247/?cat=565

Hopefully but I think it's to late. 2 - 4 feet of snow heading for Tughill.

 

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[LongLine]

Currently bouncing 246.2 to 246.5 at Rochester.

 

Recent Outflows:

 

 

Tom B.

(LongLine)

[rolmops]

I just read an article stating that every single Great Lake in the chain is above maximum level and tons of lakeside property will be damaged at the shores of every Great Lake. Except for Lake Ontario which is the closest to its acceptable level of any of the Great Lakes. That tidbit of info seems to put things a bit more in perspective

[Legacy]

An absolute disaster for everyone and everything along the great lakes!

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[Gill-T]

Que the Tourette’s Guy compilation. 

[Smat64]

Unreal.


More info

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[Legacy]

Thought I would share this write up....

 

 

 

 

 

"Shipping has opened March 1 exactly once in the last 20 years, and that was in 2017 just prior to our first record flooding. Note that 2017 was also their longest season, closing January 11th despite the destruction to the shoreline and the record highs.

The average duration of the shipping season in the last 20 years is 279.9 days. Let's see if an April 1st, 2020 start date changes the actual length of the shipping season before we start using the catastrophic costs to the shipping industry as a reason to not lower the lake. IJC, ILOSLRB, elected officials and media, some critical thinking please.

This is not a 12 day delay, this is simply shipping not getting what they want and spinning it as a costly accommodation. However, the continued costs to the shoreline are real".