Depth without riggers

[fishin2]

Just getting into salmon fishin from own boat. How can a person get to the needed depth for kings without riggers. Open to all as this is a learning to me. Thanks all.

[whaler1]

Dypsy divers. 

[GAMBLER]

Divers or a thumper rig.  

[fisherman21]

Torpedo divers and chinook/dipsy divers

[fishin2]

how much line out to get to say 65', they have magnum divers I think. Thanks fellas

 

 

[regulator]

Dipsy Divers = Excitement! I believe a #1 dipsey with the O-ring on a 3 setting is like a 3:1 ratio, so say 195' back should put you in that range. Assuming you are using wire that is.

[Crayfish]

A 300' copper will get you in that range as well.  I measured 60' down with the Fishhawk TD on a 300 copper pulling a spoon at 2.5mph.

[LongLine]

I'd advise invest in a rigger first.  Even if only a manual one, then go from there. 

[TyeeTanic]

Dipsey divers will be your best bet.

 

But you might want to also put a LARGE torpedo diver on a leadcore, off of a planer board to get depth and provide a different presentation.

[fishin2]

My heads spinning already...thanks guys.

[Charlie P]

Not exact but close current etc will effect depth.

[steelydan]

Dipsy on wire!!!   

[HB2]

The center of a good woodshop is a table saw 

 

The center of a trolling rig , especially for rookies , are down riggers . 

 

They are easy to use and there is no guesswork for depth . 

 

There is a learning curve with divers etc. They work great . But first time , especially when the fish are deeper you will be guessing at depths . 

 

A set of manuals can be had pretty reasonable on here . 

[fishin2]

Thanks HB, gonna c about a set of riggers too. Seems as that is about the best bet for easy depth. 

[LongLine]

22 minutes ago, HB2 said:

The center of a good woodshop is a table saw 

 

The center of a trolling rig , especially for rookies , are down riggers . 

Measure twice & cut once or it'll get expensive quickly.

 

Tie good knots & check you lines regularly or it'll get expensive quickly.

[HB2]

1 hour ago, LongLine said:

Measure twice & cut once or it'll get expensive quickly.

 

Tie good knots & check you lines regularly or it'll get expensive quickly.

 

Oh , it's going to get expensive  no matter what . 

[LongLine]

[Pappy]

Lots of good advice here!

So here is what should happen....

Get a couple dipsy set ups going, one with a green pro troll and T107 Atomic Fly

one with a double glow white protroll and mag moonshine spoon

go fishing

your going to get one, mid teens

then you will.....

buy a huge boat

have every electronic thing you can find

two nets

about 20 rods

every spoon and every fly ever made

Good luck trying to break the addiction after that first dipsy strike

[C3M]

All great advice from great fishermen!

 

I would also advocate for a 1# thumper rig down the shoot (center). From rod to reel and  20# wire the set up can be <$135 total. 

 

Good luck!

[fishin2]

Thanks all, very sound advice. Any loan officers here, gonna need it !! Seriously, like to thank all for the advice, well taken and arsenal is growing.

 

[tuffishooker]

Ditto on even manual rigger ! What is your time worth ?

[chowder]

12 hours ago, fishin2 said:

Thanks all, very sound advice. Any loan officers here, gonna need it !! Seriously, like to thank all for the advice, well taken and arsenal is growing.

 

you can get a pair of mauals for next to nothing (pm me) . Installing them is going to be a bigger deal than buying them AND don;t forget the expense and time of installing diver rod holders- you will want diver s and holders but theres more to it than just the rod,reel n wire

[Steve.e]

Don't forget that the depth on the rigger gauge is not real depth when trolling. Angle of the cable makes a significant change in depth. True or very close depth is : cable out x cosign of estimated angle. There are charts available, google it, or do the math and make your own.

Edited June 14, 2022 by Steve.e